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When did I ever say that the iPhone copied the Prada? That's not my point at all. The point is that it shows that multiple companies were already working on a similar form factor pre-Iphone. This is the point everyone loves to skip over when they show those pictures.
The F700 was announced a month after the iPhone, you don't honestly think that it was developed in one month, do you?
Also, why does the judge have to fix the patent system before we can admit that it's broken? I'm not even sure what your point was in that regard. The fact that we have judges saying the patent system is broken is pretty good proof that it is.

Just so you know, the App Store did no launch until the iPhone 3G was launched. It was not a part of the original iPhone. As a matter of fact the only thing the original iPhone did that other phones didn't do was offer a sleek ui and responsive touchscreen. It also lacked a large amount of features that any smartphone could do at the time.
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The point is that it shows that multiple companies were already working on a similar form factor pre-Iphone. This is the point everyone loves to skip over when they show those pictures.

Oh, well, you didn't make that very clear. You can't just bring up the Prada and not expect someone to think you're talking about the well-known iPhone/Prada copycat controversy.
So anyways, I don't think its accurate to call those similar. The F700 had a slide-out keyboard. That pretty much negates that. It was more related to the sidekick, or Windows Mobile phones of its time than to the iPhone.
The Prada phone may have looked similar, and was the subject of heated controversy, but in the end the next generation Prada also had a slide out keyboard. (first gen used T9) It went in its own different direction after the iPhone launch. So saying that samsung phones (or other phones too) would have naturally progressed from the F700 to the Galaxy S without the iPhone's public influence doesn't make sense. They both featured wildly different design philosophy.
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Also the points I previously made on the separate subject don't pertain to this in particular but remain valid.

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Just so you know, the App Store did no launch until the iPhone 3G was launched. It was not a part of the original iPhone.

The original iPhone had stock apps. Like iPod, calculator, calendar, photos. They're still called apps without an app store.
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Nice edit, but all smartphones already had all those apps minus the iPod. Anyways...

Of course the smartphone market was influenced by the iPhone I don't deny it. I'm sure that was part of the reason Samsung stopped making so many phones with hardware keyboards. The point about natural progression has more to do with the design elements though. The F700 shares many design elements with the Galaxy S. That's the point. Many design features that Apple says Samsung copied were already being used by Samsung as you can see by the F700, and the slide Samsung wanted to use as evidence in the recent patent dispute. It's also worth noting that the F700 was originally designed to be a keyboardless phone.
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Nice edit, but all smartphones already had all those apps minus the iPod. Anyways...

Neither the F700 or the Prada had apps laid out on the home screen like the iPhone. Nobody said they invented apps. They innovated.

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Whatever about what Apple says copied what. No doubt Apple is mistaken about a lot of things. But I'm not. biggrin.gif huehuehue
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What does that even mean and what exactly is your argument? Pre-Edit your post said something to the effect that the original iPhone offered apps that weren't seen on other phones. Now all you're saying is that they had those apps on the home screen? lol

I'm struggling to understand the point you're making.
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