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So I currently have 4 hard drives in my sig rig. a 250GB for the OS, 2x1.5TB in raid 0 for storage and a 3TB to backup the raid 0. After two annoying power outages yesterday, I hear the click of death in my 3TB, The 1.5TB drives seem fine but I stopped using it for now since my backup went out. I will RMA the 3TB sometime today but I figured I need to upgrade my storage options anyway.

So currently, I plan to get the R4 since I can't fit more than 4 drives in my current case. Other than that, what hard drive upgrades should I look into getting? Currently, windows reports me having 597GB free out of 2.72TB and I fear I will run out of space soon. I'm not really comfortable getting a high capacity drive like my 3TB hitachi because of what happened today. Also I'm not looking into upgrading to an SSD yet, maybe sometime in the future. Right now I just want advice on my storage drives.

And also, lets just say there is no budget limit. biggrin.gif
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Try building a small storage server. I would recommend 4x 2TB drives in raid 5 configuration (6TB useable) on a gig-e connection. Not only would it solve your storage problem, but its redundant too so if a drive dies you dont loose everything.

Something like this:


Take it with a bit of a grain of salt as those parts might not be the best for a self built NAS. The case is good if a bit cramped (i have a variant of it myself, but with a different front panel.) and has enough slots for the drives. Getting an OS drive is up to you though.
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I just read a great review on the WD mybook with 2x velociraptors in it. Dang fast and 3 year ga ron tee. Let me go a looking and I will add in the link.

Here it is: the ssdreview.com western-digital-releases-my-book-velociraptor-duo-and-matches-ssd-transfer-rates
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Try building a small storage server. I would recommend 4x 2TB drives in raid 5 configuration (6TB useable) on a gig-e connection. Not only would it solve your storage problem, but its redundant too so if a drive dies you dont loose everything.
Something like this:

Take it with a bit of a grain of salt as those parts might not be the best for a self built NAS. The case is good if a bit cramped (i have a variant of it myself, but with a different front panel.) and has enough slots for the drives. Getting an OS drive is up to you though.

Thanks for that. I don't think I plan on building another rig though. I don't really have a problem just adding more hard drives to my current rig since its already on 24/7 and I use my Macbook most of the time to browse/do work. Those hard drives look pretty cheap for the price though. Are they reliable?
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I just read a great review on the WD mybook with 2x velociraptors in it. Dang fast and 3 year ga ron tee. Let me go a looking and I will add in the link.
Here it is: the ssdreview.com western-digital-releases-my-book-velociraptor-duo-and-matches-ssd-transfer-rates

This would probably be great as a backup. Thanks. Reading the review right now. Repped
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It depends on how fast your data is growing. If you're only using up your space at around 1-2TB per year, then just get a few 2TB drives and be done with it. If you're eating through space faster than that, then a storage server or NAS is your best option.

Either way, I highly recommend buying a RAID card and running your drives in RAID5 or RAID6.


Also, as you've learned, never buy the largest capacity drive on the market (or any 4 or 5 platter drive for that matter) for anything important. They run a very high risk of failure. The added mass on the spindle motor wears it down faster and causes lots of vibration, and the extra heads just increase the chance of one of them crashing.
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Thanks for that. I don't think I plan on building another rig though. I don't really have a problem just adding more hard drives to my current rig since its already on 24/7 and I use my Macbook most of the time to browse/do work. Those hard drives look pretty cheap for the price though. Are they reliable?
This would probably be great as a backup. Thanks. Reading the review right now. Repped
Samsung drives are pretty reliable provided they are actually made by samsung and not seagate. If its seagate then you are playing chicken with data loss.

I still advocate building some sort of redundant array for storage and backup though. Proper raid cards with cache and on-board processing arent cheap (>$500 easily), so such a setup in your main rig w/ 4x 2TB disks is easily running upwards of $800
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Samsung drives are pretty reliable provided they are actually made by samsung and not seagate. If its seagate then you are playing chicken with data loss.
I still advocate building some sort of redundant array for storage and backup though. Proper raid cards with cache and on-board processing arent cheap (>$500 easily), so such a setup in your main rig w/ 4x 2TB disks is easily running upwards of $800

(shameless plug) I have a RocketRaid 4320 I'm looking to sell. It's got an IOP348 processor (one of the fastest) and 8 ports.
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My rig pretty much acts like a nas already though. It's on 24/7 and it:

1.) Runs iTunes in my room
2.) Serves the families media files (Picture library, photos etc)
3.) VM running debian hosting a webserver/netatalk.
4.) I'd be lying if I didn't say torrents
5.) Occasionally, I would run TF2 and counterstrike global offense if I feel like it.

Should I still invest in a raid card? Other upgrades I have planned this year other than getting the R4 case (which i should be receiving next week) is getting a cablecard tuner so storage will be needed in the future for recordings. The only things I don't like about getting a dedicated raid card is, what if the controller fails? I would have to hunt down the same exact raid card else my raid can't be rebuit. I opted for raid 0 through windows because I would be able to transfer the raid to any windows 7 machine. As much as I wan't to go Raid 5, I'm scared. I can run raid using my mobo but I read that its pretty cpu intensive, and if I dedicated raid card, I would have to find the same exact card if it fails.. Hmm what to do.
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Either way, I highly recommend buying a RAID card and running your drives in RAID5 or RAID6.

The Man is the guy to listen too. He taught me all I know about keyboards and many other things. Probably the reason I am staff now. If you are running all that 24/7 now you should have raid 5 or 6. Get a good raid card with proper cooling. Like the one he is selling wink.gif

Get a few good drives and fill up your system with storage! Just don't do what I did. Remember to watch or listen to what you DL before you DL more, and del the old things. I have 6 HDs but only 5 working in my system now. I wish I had kept them organised.

PS: no need to actively cool hard drives. As long as some air flows they are good. It does not even need to be much air, just some.
 
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