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Ouch.
Yeah there are too many variables to be able to use different PCB/firmware revisions reliably. It could use different voltage thresholds for 1's and 0's (probably due to a different preamp on the actuator arms), or it could use a different algorithm for the ECC data at the end of each sector, or it could leave a different amount of space in between sectors, or the sector lead-in data could be different. In any case, it's a recipe for disaster unless you know for a fact that none of these things were changed. It's only when the change is something like an NCQ optimization or a different head parking timeout, and you're 100% sure of it, that you're safe.

I understood everything you were talking about there but never realized you know THAT much about hard drives. Looks like I will be coming to you for some help in the future my liege. Anyways, it is always fun trying to recover data on a dead drive when the customer cannot afford a 520 data recovery (we use a Drive Compass, which works a majority of the time) and it takes 4 days, only to find out it skipped 90% of the stuff, including all the pictures. Terminal copy is great...when it works.

 
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is there any possible way to fix a drive with a couple bad sectors or is the drive just going to hit the crapper from this point on? I got it from a friend and it has like x2 bad sectors but was not sure if it would be worth using or not. Id like to try and repair it if possible or I will just junk it

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Cannot fix bad sectors. You could format it, and the pending sectors will become reallocated sectors, but that is just the beginning the drive will likely, eventually fail. So replace it. If one of my drives has even 1 bad block on it, I replace the drive.

 
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I understood everything you were talking about there but never realized you know THAT much about hard drives. Looks like I will be coming to you for some help in the future my liege. Anyways, it is always fun trying to recover data on a dead drive when the customer cannot afford a 520 data recovery (we use a Drive Compass, which works a majority of the time) and it takes 4 days, only to find out it skipped 90% of the stuff, including all the pictures. Terminal copy is great...when it works.

lol unfortunately I don't have a clean room or any of the necessary equipment to put my knowledge to good use rolleyes.gif. But yeah I'd be happy to oblige if there's something I can help you with smile.gif

By the way, does your drive compass work on USB drives? I've got a friend with a WD Passport, but the PCB has a direct USB connection not a SATA->USB converter, and after a drop I've been unable to get anything off of it. I have a gut feeling that the firmware sector(s) got screwed up, because it spins up but nothing else. No head movement and no PC detection. Then again it might be a USB converter built into the PCB, but I didn't examine it well enough to find out.
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I don't own one. I work for a company that does and talk with the data tech on a regular basis. That is how I know what I know. As for a USB PCB, there is nothing you can really do on that thing other than use R-Studio or something. The DCs are USB based, but but are IDE, SCSI, SAS, and SATA for drive connections. Part of my job involves to low level data recovery with simple steps.


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I don't own one. I work for a company that does and talk with the data tech on a regular basis. That is how I know what I know. As for a USB PCB, there is nothing you can really do on that thing other than use R-Studio or something. The DCs are USB based, but but are IDE, SCSI, SAS, and SATA for drive connections. Part of my job involves to low level data recovery with simple steps.

Ah, gotcha. Well I figured it was at least worth asking smile.gif
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BTW, the Drive Compass requires you to go to China for 2 weeks where the manufacture actually puts you through a cram class on how to use it and how a drive works. Then it is all trial and error. The data tech at my work uses a technique where he makes the drive read backwards. Yes backwards. When you do that, the drive just has no idea what the heck is going on and just coughs up the data. Then he takes it and flips it around and builds an image from it... backwards XD

 
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BTW, the Drive Compass requires you to go to China for 2 weeks where the manufacture actually puts you through a cram class on how to use it and how a drive works. Then it is all trial and error. The data tech at my work uses a technique where he makes the drive read backwards. Yes backwards. When you do that, the drive just has no idea what the heck is going on and just coughs up the data. Then he takes it and flips it around and builds an image from it... backwards XD

LOL that's awesome. Makes me want one, kind of tongue.gif
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Yeah our data tech also is the service manager as well. He knows Mac and PC. Along with he works in the corp. side where I work and does a lot of consulting with companies and whatnot. Furthermore the guy is a Exchange and Office 365 god and much much more. Guy has certs coming out the butt. He does something once and learns it XD

 
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Bump for the guys who need help.

 
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