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I've had my 3570K for a few weeks now, and wanted to get some opinions.

I acquired the CPU and it already had the IHS removed. Initially, I was getting well into the 90's at around 1.3v or so using AS5 on water. After attempting several remounts, I kept getting the same temps, so I switched to Shin Etsu - Blue cap.
Temps dropped considerably using the Shin between the IHS/CPU and CPU/Water-block. I'm running mid 90's @ 1.45v under load now. (See Pic below)

So, temps are not really an issue.

Now my concerns / questions:

- I need about 1.45v under load to run stable @ 4.7ghz. Anything less, and I get WHEA errors.

- The Motherboard I'm using has pins missing AND bent. I only noticed this when I initially took the CPU out to re-do the TIM. Obviously missing / bent pins are never a good thing, but it does work and recognizes correctly. I have zero problems at default speeds.

- Would the missing / bent pins explain why I need so much Vcore to run stable? I'm assuming its a miracle that it even runs at stock, yes?



Specs in sig rig.
Edited by *ka24e* - 9/1/12 at 6:02am
post #2 of 24
Some of the pins are there as a measure of redundancy or future features....
And some of the pins are there to supply extra power when oc'ing.

To be honest, I can't believe you got it up to 4.7 stable band.gif

I have an Asus p67 with some bent pins that pops everytime I turn it on with a cpu in it (one of the pins is overlapping another and I don't have a steady hand to fix it without breaking the pin) & a Gigabyte UD7 that is missing just 1 pin (it was bent, tried to fix it, broke it off nerdsmiley.png) but keeps turning on & off every 2 seconds...never ever seen the post screen..

I used a 2500k for both, and right now its in an h67 board @ stock speeds gunner.gif

I think your temps & vcore are a little too high for 24/7 but way to go dude...oc'ing with such a board....You must be the bravest S@B out there....Respect
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Really? I was thinking I had a bad chip (or the mobo was causing the lack of OC) after seeing numerous posts about 4.7+ @ 1.2-1.3v core while mine takes almost 1.5v to run stable. Honestly after seeing the pins I'm debating on just getting another board but wanted to get some opinions first.

Temps at 1.45v gaming / surfing etc never touch 70*c. Prime only gets into the 80's and IBT and LinX are the only programs that get it to the 90's.
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Normally it's not even about the motherboard, it's about the chip. Maybe you got a dud. I'd probably sell that for $40 cheaper or something. Most people on Craigslist or a website like that don't know too much about CPUs or overclocking so they won't see it's potential. As well as they won't know the difference between a delidded or normal CPU. It may be prying on the uninformed, but sometimes it's what you gotta do.
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Well, in all honesty I've actually been running it at stock speed for the most part. I haven't really found a need to overclock it to crazy speeds..... yet.

I'm thinking that the chip is more or less being crippled by the motherboard, or that's what I'm hoping at least. At the same time tho, I'd hate to grab a Z77 board and find out the chip is just a bad clocker after all.
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Well, in all honesty I've actually been running it at stock speed for the most part. I haven't really found a need to overclock it to crazy speeds..... yet.

I'm thinking that the chip is more or less being crippled by the motherboard, or that's what I'm hoping at least. At the same time tho, I'd hate to grab a Z77 board and find out the chip is just a bad clocker after all.

4.2 is a good overclock if you don't want to do major overclocking. 99% of chips will do 4.2 on stock voltage so really, it's a free upgrade with a 100% certainty that your hardware won't break. Just change CPU ratio to 42 and test prime for about 8 hours or less since it's such a minor OC.
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I kinda lost faith in most "stability tests" after doing this:



I had ran the "OCCT CPU Test" 2 hours before this ^ as well. Even tho it had passed for 15 hours total, I still had a lot of WHEA errors. Prime and IBT showed similar results as well. They would pass for hours, but I still had WHEA errors.
Edited by *ka24e* - 9/2/12 at 1:52am
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I kinda lost faith in most stability tests after doing this:



I had ran the "OCCT CPU Test" 2 hours before this ^ as well. Even tho it had passed for 15 hours total, I still had a lot of WHEA errors. Prime and IBT showed similar results as well. They would pass for hours, but I still had WHEA errors.

Sir, ........

I don't believe in WHEA errors. People tell me that it proves that your CPU is unstable and have to recalculate because it made a counting error. Just no. I mean, are you telling me that the past 8 years of overclocking and the proven results by benchmarks that I got better scores that my CPU was still unstable and in fact slower? No! WHEA errors started popping up about 1 1/2 months ago and I don't see a single point in it. I mean, seriously?

I get WHEA errors on STOCK. Yes stock and does that mean I got a dud? No because even my brother's gets WHEA errors during prime95 on stock. No point.

Sorry for the WHEA error rampage but I absolutely hate it when people tell me that they think their OC is unstable because of that error.
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Well if that's the case, then I would say I have a decent chip then. And I have to agree with you, as I have never had any issues at all when the WHEA errors are thrown. I've never been able to find a clear answer other than "If you get a WHEA error, then its not truly stable".

Now I'm going to reset everything and start from scratch, ignoring any WHEA errors. thumb.gif
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my 3570k is running 4.7ghz @ 1.25v, 1.45v is just insane.
i think that the bent pins is the culprit though. don't you have any other PC you can test it with?
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