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For a while, "in general" single computer Monitors have had higher pixel resolutions available than TV's. Even the huge 55" to 65" LCD/LED TV's have mostly only supported max HD resolutions for their VGA modes. 1920 * 1080

My question is does this finally change with a 4K monitor (7680 * 4620) Freakin Huge... Does Nvidia & AMD do anything different? Who would need Multi Monitor? I would suspect that the new TV's will not support native 4K across their VGA/DVI computer connections but who knows. If they did that would be very nice indeed for those who have more money than....oh nevermind this is OCN. biggrin.gif

Definite food for thought especially those that say that 3G or 6G memory is wasted, or will never be used. I'll let someone else do the calculation on what base memory size would be needed on a video card to support native 4K on a video card. hmm refresh rate would also be interesting unless done in parallel checkerboard squares lol.

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I think 4k refers to the 2160p monitors and 8k is the massive res shown in the picture. I was kinda bummed out when I saw that my 1440p monitor was called quad hd only to find out that the 4k generation is True Quad HD...

but yeah i can't wait for my tv to have the next stup up in hd!!!
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By the time 4k TV's/monitors become available all current graphics cards will be out dated. Also the difference eyefinity and 4k isn't that huge just about 25%more in favor of a 4k monitor. So a card that runs eyefinity 5760 x 1080 well will also do pretty well for a 4k monitor.
    
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I believe that most of AMDs 7000 series supports 4k now which means that even that even if its supported its not gonna run your games with the best frames but if you happen to have a 4k monitor it shouls work perfectly fine with browsing and what not.
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post #5 of 10
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For a while, "in general" single computer Monitors have had higher pixel resolutions available than TV's. Even the huge 55" to 65" LCD/LED TV's have mostly only supported max HD resolutions for their VGA modes. 1920 * 1080
My question is does this finally change with a 4K monitor (7680 * 4620) Freakin Huge... Does Nvidia & AMD do anything different? Who would need Multi Monitor? I would suspect that the new TV's will not support native 4K across their VGA/DVI computer connections but who knows. If they did that would be very nice indeed for those who have more money than....oh nevermind this is OCN. biggrin.gif
Definite food for thought especially those that say that 3G or 6G memory is wasted, or will never be used. I'll let someone else do the calculation on what base memory size would be needed on a video card to support native 4K on a video card. hmm refresh rate would also be interesting unless done in parallel checkerboard squares lol.

When 4K or 8K get to the size they will be "monitors" (<32" IMHO) the beautiful part will be the PPI will be the "retina" level. Meaning at normal viewing distances your eyes wont be able to see where one pixel ends and another begins. This actually take some burdens off Graphics cards as the need for super-sampling, AA and AF will be gone; no need to try to blur lines to keep from looking pixelated when you couldn't see the pixelation unless your nose is pressed against the screen.

I personally cant wait for this! the products are out there... but have a ways to go before i would consider buying them. I sadly do not have an extra $20k for a monitor. rolleyes.giftongue.gif
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When 4K or 8K get to the size they will be "monitors" (<32" IMHO) the beautiful part will be the PPI will be the "retina" level. Meaning at normal viewing distances your eyes wont be able to see where one pixel ends and another begins. This actually take some burdens off Graphics cards as the need for super-sampling, AA and AF will be gone; no need to try to blur lines to keep from looking pixelated when you couldn't see the pixelation unless your nose is pressed against the screen.
I personally cant wait for this! the products are out there... but have a ways to go before i would consider buying them. I sadly do not have an extra $20k for a monitor. rolleyes.giftongue.gif

So with more pixels the image looks better without AA? That would explain why BF3 looks better at medium settings at 1440p then it did at high on 1080p with a little bit of AA
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So with more pixels the image looks better without AA? That would explain why BF3 looks better at medium settings at 1440p then it did at high on 1080p with a little bit of AA

Not directly because it's not the same. With a higher resolution you have a better pixel density and with more pixels the more detailed the picture becomes. You can compare to build a face out off Large LEGO Duplo bricks and the make the same face with smaller LEGO brick - both with the same dimensions.
Anti-aliasing doesn't increase the pixel count or density but serves a purpose of elliminating "jaggies" and make lines more straight. It does this via different methods depending on technology used.
The higher the resolution the less obvious the "jaggies" becomes.
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Not directly because it's not the same. With a higher resolution you have a better pixel density and with more pixels the more detailed the picture becomes. You can compare to build a face out off Large LEGO Duplo bricks and the make the same face with smaller LEGO brick - both with the same dimensions.
Anti-aliasing doesn't increase the pixel count or density but serves a purpose of elliminating "jaggies" and make lines more straight. It does this via different methods depending on technology used.
The higher the resolution the less obvious the "jaggies" becomes.

in the end what really matters though is the resolution though. I can max out BF3 with all the AA it can do at 1027x 768 but it aint gonna look all that great
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4k monitors cost around 30,000$ right now. So I dont see them getting cheaper for a long time.
 
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4k monitors cost around 30,000$ right now. So I dont see them getting cheaper for a long time.

by the time I could personally save up that much money an 8k monitor might be avalible for that much! rolleyes.gif
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