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Originally Posted by magic8ball88 View Post

I need to keep the cost down though. I would love to get a z77 board but I think an h61 will be great for my mom's needs. It's been hard for me to build this too because I keep thinking about my needs over hers. In all reality this build is probably already over kill. But I think it'll be a snappy system for her.
oh snap! i thought that you had an i5 3570k. yeah i would just get an h61 or h77 motherboard from asrock, asus, or gigabyte.
post #12 of 38
The AsRock boards other than Z77 don't seem to have as good reviews. Maybe the EVGA P67 board going for $50.

The place I would splurge for your mom is the monitor. Get her a shimian or overlord. I got my mom one and she absolutely loves it. Before she was using a 14" iMac or some crap. She says she now gets how people can spend hours just staring at a computer.
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The AsRock boards other than Z77 don't seem to have as good reviews. Maybe the EVGA P67 board going for $50.
The place I would splurge for your mom is the monitor. Get her a shimian or overlord. I got my mom one and she absolutely loves it. Before she was using a 14" iMac or some crap. She says she now gets how people can spend hours just staring at a computer.

I actually just saw that board and I was interested but I can't get a P67. That would be useless for me lol. No integrated graphics but I can overclock... on a non k processor lol. I definitely want to get her a good monitor. The computer is going in her "office" and I think I'll get a 1080p 21.5 inch monitor but she also wants to put a tv in the room. She wants like a 32 inch samsung tv and I think it would be cool to give her a dual monitor setup with that. That's where the wireless keyboard and mouse would be nice haha.

Anyway, I wasn't totally satisfied with the other build so I threw together a new one. It's more expensive but I feel better about it. There is no monitor though. And I won't be doing mail in rebates. Here it is.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gmqE
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gmqE/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gmqE/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($111.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Plextor M5S Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.98 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft 5SH-00001 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($22.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $402.92
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-02 17:46 EDT-0400)

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Okay so my mom didn't like that case. She saw the Alienware ones at best buy and liked the size of the case >:l

So any suggestions for a case? It needs to be small because her desk is small. Under 10.5 inches deep :/ probably hard to find. Also preferably somewhat thin. I'm very lost now. I don't know if I want to go mini-itx but I will if I have to.
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Hello magic,

[EDIT IN: I was working on this post then distracted away for awhile so missed your input about your mother not liking the case. I will try to find another approach... however, the ideas below are still valid for those who may be following the thread:

The build looks pretty good to me though I think there's room to improve. Here's my thoughts:

1. The older and less expensive motherboard you have chosen doesn't have a SATA III port, which will cut into the potential peak performance of the SSD drive by up to ~30% or so under some situations.
2. What are you plans for speakers? Any? I notice the monitor selected has none, but is also priced pretty competitively so it's hard to argue with. (monitors with speakers are currently priced ~$20 more with shipping, which is probably enough to buy some nicer separate speakers anyway)
3. The i3 only natively supports 1333 speed memory (though on some boards you may be able to set it higher, but not on the board you have selected), and the odds of anyone actually sending in a $10 MIR are pretty nill. I'd suggest splitting the difference. If you stick to the board that only supports 1333 speeds on an SB chip, then pick a 1333 kit with no rebate required to save the hassle. Otherwise, if you snag a board that supports the higher speed, there are 1600 kits for ~$39-40 that would "split the difference" between sending in the MIR or not. $5 is not enough savings on an MIR to waste the time IMO.
4. Unless cordless is specifically requested, traditional wired keyboard/mice kits are always best when building for friends and family.
5. The Ranger case is available in a combo with a better PSU for less cost.


Example:

CPU/ODD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1053433
Save hassle of ordering the CPU from a separate vendor, this combo effectively makes the i3 $3 cheaper through newegg than through superbiz

Case/PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1046101
The 430W green is a more respectably made unit than most lower end cooler master power supplies. In this combo, your Case/PSU are costing effectively $8 less.

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128540
This newer generation entry level chipset board does cost slightly more, however, gives you a SATA III port so as not to bottleneck the potential SSD performance. Also, this board is going to be better long term if you ever have to add functionality or replace functionality. (onboard ethernet commonly fails on MOBOs, you may want the machine to go discrete GPU in the future to improve CPU performance (since they share system memory and bandwidth), while the board you have picked would do both of these things, there would be no room left for say, a wireless card, or another interface card down the road (firewire? More USB?, you never know). This board has a bit more room to grow, especially if a single slot width GPU is utilised. If you can afford another $15, this is an even better option: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128555 <4xDDR slots may prove useful long term, but that's questionable depending on the direction software takes in coming years.

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163
If you really trust yourself to send in the MIR, and are confident it will come back, go for the SSD you had in mind, otherwise, this is the better quality unit for the same price (before rebate).

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148543
Save yourself the trouble of sending in the MIR on RAM, the i3 SB will only run 1333 speeds on that board anyway.

KB/Mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126097
WIRED unless specifically requested. Less opportunity for problems with wired input devices.

Monitor/Speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254100
Otherwise, pick up the Acer you had in mind, and pick up some separate speakers. (something like : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121013 )


That's around $20 more than your current build plan, includes speakers, better motherboard, better power supply, etc etc. It's worth the difference IMO.

Eric
Edited by mdocod - 9/2/12 at 5:17pm
     
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post #16 of 38
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Wow Eric thank you in advance for taking the time to write such a meaty post.

I did make an updated build because I saw that board didn't have SATA III so I picked a different motherboard.

And coincidentally in the new build I got 1333 MHz ram lol. I didn't know the i3 didn't support 1600 though, I just figured 1333 would be fine

I know for sure I won't do mail in rebates. It's not worth it most of the time.

I found a plextor drive for $85 so I I'll get that.

I will definitely get that CPU ODD combo thanks for showing me that.

I don't think she likes that case though so I've got more looking to do.

And wireless is needed just because I think she might hook up the computer to a tv and use it on the couch. As far as speakers, we already have some to use. Thank you so much Eric.
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Even the little alienware slim desktop machines are nearly 13" deep, the only options I can think of that are less than 10.5" deep are going to be if you turn a case sideways, or, use one of these LianLi jobs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112227
That's only 8.2" deep.
     
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Even the little alienware slim desktop machines are nearly 13" deep, the only options I can think of that are less than 10.5" deep are going to be if you turn a case sideways, or, use one of these LianLi jobs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112227
That's only 8.2" deep.

Yeah I didn't think I would have much luck. She might just have to deal with a deep case. What about a HTPC case though? Any that come to mind?
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Looks like a pretty good build to me thumb.gif I know it's $6 more..but I had a Biostar H61MGC..and it was very nice quality..AsRock..eh..idk..
I have a Gigabyte H61 now..and it's nowhere near as nice as that Biostar was..
 
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Looks like a pretty good build to me thumb.gif I know it's $6 more..but I had a Biostar H61MGC..and it was very nice quality..AsRock..eh..idk..
I have a Gigabyte H61 now..and it's nowhere near as nice as that Biostar was..

Really? I was kind of scared of getting a biostar one.
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