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i dont like the MSI board for quite a few reasons. didnt like the colour scheme...

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On the site it says it has VGA. Porbably wont run aswell though.

yeh but all other inputs except for DL-DVI and DisplayPort will offer a maximum resolution of 1920x1200 or 1080p in HDMI's case
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My WI-25 cannot be installed, as it does block part of the 1st memory slot if you're using heatsinked memory. The gigabyte I'm currently using also puts the RAM inline with the power connector, but it has like 3mm more of clearance and the PSU fits like a glove. Does your XT fit in there? Good to know!

And yes, if you want to go mITX, you need to get that ASRock, either you won't get a dual link DVI. The next thing that has it is my board, the smallest mATX in the market.

lol smallest mATX... i moved away from mATX. it costs me too much money per computer. every time i see those empty PCIe slots i fill them up with a GPU

my 160XT fits with heaps of clearance and i'm using sinked memory. i think your issue is due to how the components of the WI-25 is located that is causing the extra bulk. ether way its an easy fix with a 24pin atx PSU extender

well i might just find an outside of the box work around for my problem so im just waiting for someone with the screen and willing to do an experiment for me
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yeh but all other inputs except for DL-DVI and DisplayPort will offer a maximum resolution of 1920x1200.

Weird cuz I had a CRT that was above that res and I was running it through VGA

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yeh but all other inputs except for DL-DVI and DisplayPort will offer a maximum resolution of 1920x1200 or 1080p in HDMI's case
lol smallest mATX... i moved away from mATX. it costs me too much money per computer. every time i see those empty PCIe slots i fill them up with a GPU

I doubt you'd want to fit anything in here... XD

By the way, it measures 17'4x22'4cm thumb.gif



About the 24pin extender... It's what I wanted to do initially. But steered clear since it would mean yet another bunch of wires to route smile.gif
   
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I don't see any issues with the MSI board, however I have heard horror stories about them.
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anyone know or have any ideas what discrete cards richland will be crossfireing/dual graphics with?? i haven't even been able to find out what speed richland is going to be running at....one article suggested 4ghz-4.4ghz turbo.... but i dont know if they knew or were just guessing...
    
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anyone know or have any ideas what discrete cards richland will be crossfireing/dual graphics with?? i haven't even been able to find out what speed richland is going to be running at....one article suggested 4ghz-4.4ghz turbo.... but i dont know if they knew or were just guessing...

Gonna guess /wish for at least 7750
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anyone know or have any ideas what discrete cards richland will be crossfireing/dual graphics with?? i haven't even been able to find out what speed richland is going to be running at....one article suggested 4ghz-4.4ghz turbo.... but i dont know if they knew or were just guessing...

Here's my GUESSTIMATIONS.

The A10-6800K (invented name) will run at an aprox 8% higher core clockspeed than Trinity, that is, 4.1GHz base, an will turbo to 4.4GHz. The GPU will be clocked at 900MHz out of the box, and probably include turbo boost to 935MHz (similar to what's done on high end HD7 cards).
The processor itself will have an IMC with full support for DDR3-2133, and will have support for low voltage memory (thus complying to JEDEC current standards).

All of this maintaining TDP.

And the 65W version will be clocked at 3.6GHz base with a 4.1GHz turbo, the GPU will be clocked at 860MHz with a 900MHz turbo, and the rest will be the same to the A10-6800K.


That's what I realistically hope to see in desktop Richland. And this is what I am guessing that will be the features coming with the processor.

Of course, they will continue to have virtualization support, IOMMU, C1, C6, CnQ, A.M.P., and APM. Presumably their idle status will be improved, letting the chips idle at 800MHz on just one module (these speeds were already achieved by idling Thubans and Zosmas); and the GPU will have multiple speed status regardless of overclocked or not similar to desktop parts(right now if you OC it it never throttles).

They will crossfire with 77XX parts, for asymmetric Crossfire where the external card does all the hard work and the IGP does dynamic vsync, filtering tasks, or aids with physics calculations.
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Here's my GUESSTIMATIONS.

The A10-6800K (invented name) will run at an aprox 8% higher core clockspeed than Trinity, that is, 4.1GHz base, an will turbo to 4.4GHz. The GPU will be clocked at 900MHz out of the box, and probably include turbo boost to 935MHz (similar to what's done on high end HD7 cards).
The processor itself will have an IMC with full support for DDR3-2133, and will have support for low voltage memory (thus complying to JEDEC current standards).

All of this maintaining TDP.

And the 65W version will be clocked at 3.6GHz base with a 4.1GHz turbo, the GPU will be clocked at 860MHz with a 900MHz turbo, and the rest will be the same to the A10-6800K.


That's what I realistically hope to see in desktop Richland. And this is what I am guessing that will be the features coming with the processor.

Of course, they will continue to have virtualization support, IOMMU, C1, C6, CnQ, A.M.P., and APM. Presumably their idle status will be improved, letting the chips idle at 800MHz on just one module (these speeds were already achieved by idling Thubans and Zosmas); and the GPU will have multiple speed status regardless of overclocked or not similar to desktop parts(right now if you OC it it never throttles).

They will crossfire with 77XX parts, for asymmetric Crossfire where the external card does all the hard work and the IGP does dynamic vsync, filtering tasks, or aids with physics calculations.

One can only hope that they will crossfire with the 77xx series rather than the 76xx series. I'll probably end up selling my A10 + 6670 as a combo deal in order to purchase Richland.
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As far as I've read the memory controller on this APU "platform" (whole system) resides in the APU chip and not the motherboard. And it's up to that IMC to "choose" (or support) a certain max memory clock, and not the motherboard. But isn't the APU-memory link physically ON the motherboard? So wouldn't the motherboard itself have a role to play in said link's frequency?

What I am trying to describe is that: Motherboards like the ASRock A75-ITX which advertise DDR3 2600+(OC) really have nothing different from, say the Zotac A75-ITX Wifi B which advertises "up to DDR3-1866 (depending on APU chip)". Both will support at least 1866 (with an A10), but no one motherboard will overclock better, past that point. Am I right?
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