Originally Posted by Artikbot
Laptop RAM because 1) eats less power and 2) is less restrictive to case airflow, which in the rig I'm building, is something VERY important (RAM sticks actually make a wall in my case)
Why A75? Because if the board has 4 SATA ports, why having 8 anyway? It's wasted resources. Plus RAID5 on an ITX board is something very likely not to happen. Also pricepoint should be lower, too.
Meanwhile onboard WiFI and BT save me from using dongles, something I really appreciate on my build.
I don't see it as stupid...
Perhaps I should explain my thinking on this to clarify my use of the word stupid.
From all the info we've been getting leaked to us AMD fans, there's gonna be two sockets for all AMD PC's in the foreseeable future, AM3+ and FM2.
I think AMD engineering has made another quantum leap in PC architecture, not unlike the old Athlon 64 x2's introduction of the first true dual-core on-die chip. BTW, I'm still having fun on this old Brisbane core, Athlon 64 X2 5000+ today. I have it running at 3 Ghz and the DDR2 at 825 Mhz.
But I digress. If this new APU is gonna be a shift change, and I think it is, futureproof is the thinking I will follow. Now, contrary to what has been said earlier, Newegg currently has some Kingston HyperX SO-DIMMs in a 16GB (2X8) kit with a CAS latency of 9 and that at 1.35v. So yes they're running less voltage and the profile is a bit lower.
But, that kit is currently $144, AND it's running at 1600 Mhz. Now, from all the reviews I've read, these new APU's greatly, I mean GREATLY benefit from faster RAM, and the more the better. Given, 204 pin SO-DIMMs can be had with as much RAM as 240 pin SDRAMs, but the design layout of the SO-DIMM sucks for cooling because the bottom layer of chips have to run hotter than the top row and even if you could find a SO-DIMM cooling kit, I doubt if I could get a stable memory profile past 1800 Mhz. Some guys with good cooling are reporting 2400 Mhz on SDRAMs, the advertised maximum OC for some of the FM1 boards today. And I've seen good proofs these guys are getting some really good frame rates on games like BF3 using the dual grapics with a HD6000 series card. but that socket will soon be history.
I've studied the technology and reviews of the Llano for more than a year now, and I've been building my own PC's since '93. I waited for the Brisbane and it has been the best futureproofed PC ever. It was originally a 3500 and had one Nvidia 7950GT GPU. It got one CPU upgrade to the 5000+ and one additional 7950GT for SLI and I play Empire Total War battles with the system rendering 4000 actors and I watch cannonballs bouncing off walls.
Again, I digress. From my experience, I will go with the best advice I see about the RAM on these APU's, the faster the better. And the more RAM will be even more better. (?)
Regarding the A75 chipset, My thoughts about it have nothing to do with the extra SATA ports. It has more to do with your thoughts about the cool hard-wired Wi-FI and bluetooth dongles in the legacy I/O on this board. The A85 has two extra USB 3.0 ports. With those I can do what I'd rather do, have a WI-FI antenna setup with much better range and thus flexibility should, say, the cable go out in my neighborhood and I can just load up my Silverstone FT03 mini in the van and run it off my power invertor 1/4 mile away from MacDonalds. And I don't need my bluetooth to be running all the time. A dongle works when I need it and I can plug it in when I want it on a front (or top, on this case) port.
Maybe if I say it this way it'll sound less condescending. For ME, this board would be a stupid choice.