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My entire point is that I have nothing to take, and thus cannot lose anything. I'm still entitled to a defense, which will be provided public defender, paid for by the state, as I cannot afford anything better.

And you will still lose because the prosecution and the defense work together to move the docket. That 'will defend the client to the best of my ability' doesn't fly in the real world.
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I guess it's fine if I go steal a car because the manufacturer won't go broke if I do.
This is the rationale you'd expect from a 13 year old. It blows my mind that this is actually what grown up people on the internet believe.
I download things and I admit to it, but I don't even try to pretend what I'm doing is legal and justified. It isn't.

Argument is flawed. Nothing is stolen. A better analogy is... I will make a car exactly like the one on your lot, then I will drive away with said card. Nothing was taken from the other car on the lot or the person stolen. STFD.
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Who cares, the amount of people that get caught to the amount of people doing it is insane. You've got a better chance to be struck by lightning that get busted.
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post #54 of 61
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Who cares, the amount of people that get caught to the amount of people doing it is insane. You've got a better chance to be struck by lightning that get busted.


Not really true, you got a better chance of getting struck by lightning then actually getting sued/prosecuted. Like the article says though they have people watching torrents and logging ip's .... so getting caught and having your isp mail a DMCA notice is highly possible and most isps will drop you if you get three strikes (part of the safe haven for isps from the dmca is they stop providing internet to people who break the dmca [repeatedly])

I did see a court ruling somewhere think it was a federal district court in virginia where the judge said an IP address is not enough to prove someone actually downloaded something @ their house because obviously ip's can be spoofed...

None of that really matters though because the mpaa/riaa has senators and congressman in their pockets so if they really want someone bad enough it will happen somehow. As always money talks and bull....walks
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What fact? I don't think you know what "innocent until proven guilty" means.

Yes I know what it mean O_o? What are you trying to achieve here sir? Trying to down me to make yourself better?
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Yes I know what it mean O_o? What are you trying to achieve here sir? Trying to down me to make yourself better?
No, I honestly don't think you know what it means. Your original comment pretty much verifies that.
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Ok my Good sir. Innocent until proven guilty is :


Well im french going to be hard to explain in english

They need to prove you are guilty by providing legally admissible proof.

If there is not bought proof or the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the accused is acquitted because they must prove every proof beyond a reasonable doubt

The final verdict is made by the jury which is composed of random people chosen amongst the population willing to take the "job"


That being said its totally the inverse for the USA..

They need to prove you are innocent because you are guilty until proven innocent with proof... -_-

If im wrong just explain and stop being harsh?
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Works the same way in the US. The prosecution has the burden of proof in United States courtrooms. Its their job to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the acts they are accused of. The defense attempts to refute the prosecutions' arguments. They do not have to prove anything, only create reasonable doubt.
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That does not mean diddly squat.

tru.

the best way would be through paying those VPN services, but how they handle the logs varies.
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tru.
the best way would be through paying those VPN services, but how they handle the logs varies.

Anonine has none. Like literally none. Go with them.
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