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Hi,

Well, I'm at it, I'll build my new computer in a few days. All the equipment arrived...
However, I must say, due to how expensives the parts are, I worry a bit.

So far it's the first time I build an entire computer. One thing is sure... I absolutely want to know how to. It costed me a lot less by ordering my parts online and everything, and as I know, now money is not really anymore a problem for me, I will certainly build myself other computers in the future. So it's important to do it myself biggrin.gif

Could you guys give me any advices on how to handle everything? Like caring about static discharges, mounting a CPU cooler efficiently, etc etc.

I have some questions of my own too.
1- About static and finger oils, would it be recommended to use gloves while I handle the motherboard and install the CPU/cooler/etc? What material is recommended? Latex? Rubber?

2- I'll be installing my CPU cooler with Artic Silver 5 thermal paste (LGA 2011 with Noctua NH-D14). Do you think, due to AS5's viscosity, that it would be wise to put more than a pea sized dot? Also, should I rotate a bit the heatsink on the paste to make it spread?

3- Just a question in general... ABout CPU coolers, especially the NH-D14, is it difficult to install? Do I have to myself decide the amount of pressure I put on on the CPU with a tumb screw or something (haven't received the cooler yet, will get it this week)?

4- Should I screw the motherboard in the case prior to installing that heavy cooler?

Thanks!

Also if you have more tips and avices in your head, please, tell me!

Cordially,
Yannick
Edited by Yannick - 9/4/12 at 10:32am
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It's great that you are building your own rig! thumb.gif

Best advice i can give you is make sure you install the motherboard standoff mounts into your case before screwing your motherboard down.
The most fragile part of building your computer is installing the cpu into its socket, Keep it straight and level while lowering into the socket, the cpu socket lock tab is a tight squeeze to pull down but this is normal.

All other componants are pretty much plug and play, take your time with cables and route them all individualy and neatly. Build your rig on a solid surface such as a table, I have built 100's of pc's and have never used an anti static strap or gloves, Your very unlikely to damage anything if your sensible, and doing anything silly like rubbing your motherboard over the carpet etc.

Just take your time and all will be fine, A pea size dot is normally enough or you could use the rice grain size method. I dont advise turning the cooler as your mounting it as you want the thermal paste to settle into the tiny air gaps naturally, creating a swirling motion will not help this.

I would install the motherboard into the case first as you will not be able to reach all of the motherboard mounting screws once the cooler is fitted, This is if your case has gap behind the cpu socket so you can rach the back of your cpu cooler area once the motherboard is installed.
Edited by Chewy - 9/4/12 at 10:44am
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1- About static and finger oils, would it be recommended to use gloves while I handle the motherboard and install the CPU/cooler/etc? What material is recommended? Latex? Rubber?
Ideally you never touch the flat of any PCB. Wash your hands with soap and water and dry them thoroughly before handling electronics. Try to handle components by their edges as much as possible. A little finger oil generally won't cause any damage, but the goal is to keep it to a minimum. No you don't need to wear gloves, I've been working on PCs for nearly 20 years and the only time I wore gloves was when the computer was absolutely filthy inside.
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2- I'll be installing my CPU cooler with Artic Silver 5 thermal paste (LGA 2011 with Noctua NH-D14). Do you think, due to AS5's viscosity, that it would be wise to put more than a pea sized dot? Also, should I rotate a bit the heatsink on the paste to make it spread?
How to properly apply thermal compound is a highly debated subject to this day. I'll direct you here for some info: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=1
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3- Just a question in general... ABout CPU coolers, especially the NH-D14, is it difficult to install? Do I have to myself decide the amount of pressure I put on on the CPU with a tumb screw or something (haven't received the cooler yet, will get it this week)?
Just follow the instructions, if these aren't clear enough then find a video on YouTube - with a cooler that popular it won't be hard to find videos of people putting one onto their own build. I haven't used this cooler so I can't provide any details here. In my experience, it depends on the cooler/case combo for whether to put it on outside or inside the case is easier.
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Also if you have more tips and avices in your head, please, tell me!
Just take it slowly. Put the biggest parts in first, put the power supply in last and take your time running the cabling to keep your case as clean as possible. In the back of your head think "How will this fit in with everything else" and don't be afraid to pull parts back out or move them around to make everything easier to get at, or to clean up the final product. I've probably rebuilt my desktop a dozen times over the years and every time I do it looks a little cleaner than the last because every time I put it together I find another small improvement to let me hide just a little bit more.
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about the static I just keep touching the metal side of the case thats it, for paste pea size is enough and let the cooler squeeze it like a sandwich or for unifromity spread it by the mini spatula provided, and I usually assemble the cpu+cooler+mobo first outside the case on a stable flat table to give you more work space before screwing it inside the case. Take time to visualize the cable management especially hiding the 4 or 8 pin cpu cable and the rest of that octupus cable you have there, goodluck tongue.gif
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Thanks a lot guys.
I have other questions!

5- The NH-D14 follows a model where the more we screw, the more pressure is applied. However, I fear... what if I screw too much or...? I mean... I don't get how we can screw *reasonably*, I'll just end up bending the fragile 2011 cpu pins don't you think?

Dunno if you'd mind to watch what I watched... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqQhVNelHF8
Near the end you see he applies pressure by tightening two lateral screws facing each other.


6- Between NT-H1 (Noctua defacto TIM) vs AS5, which one would you choose? I know AS5 has way higher viscosity and does not spread really well but... ?
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2- I'll be installing my CPU cooler with Artic Silver 5 thermal paste (LGA 2011 with Noctua NH-D14). Do you think, due to AS5's viscosity, that it would be wise to put more than a pea sized dot? Also, should I rotate a bit the heatsink on the paste to make it spread?

I use AS5 all the time and I spread it when I apply it on larger CPUs. AS5 is thick so spreading it is a good idea imo. Don't worry about bending pins from using the D 14 it shouldn't be a problem.
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