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I currently use 2 Xbox360's as extenders,being able use them for on demand content is helpful. The only other viable option is to wait until holidays when the Ceton Echo is planned for release.

I think that I read that you have to have some kind of preium account in order to use the Extender functions. Is this true?
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I use WMC a lot, due to my 2x HDHomerun Primes and watching Live TV on Verizon FiOS...
I have a DMA-2100 and its really really slow as an extender. I don't recommend it.
I also have an Xbox 360 (fat version) that works really well as an extender. Once in a while it won't find my Windows 7 machine and I have to restart both the Xbox and PC so that it will connect again.
But nothing really compares to having a Windows 7 machine though and running Windows Media Center, so that's what I ended up doing. I prefer it over the two previous options.
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How are you able to share all the TVs shows between each PC? Do you just save it all to some kind of NAS or server and retrieve from there?

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Looks like Ceton Echo is going to be $179.

Hell... might as well just find some Xboxs with RROD and fix'em.
    
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I currently use 2 Xbox360's as extenders,being able use them for on demand content is helpful. The only other viable option is to wait until holidays when the Ceton Echo is planned for release.

I think that I read that you have to have some kind of preium account in order to use the Extender functions. Is this true?
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I use WMC a lot, due to my 2x HDHomerun Primes and watching Live TV on Verizon FiOS...
I have a DMA-2100 and its really really slow as an extender. I don't recommend it.
I also have an Xbox 360 (fat version) that works really well as an extender. Once in a while it won't find my Windows 7 machine and I have to restart both the Xbox and PC so that it will connect again.
But nothing really compares to having a Windows 7 machine though and running Windows Media Center, so that's what I ended up doing. I prefer it over the two previous options.
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How are you able to share all the TVs shows between each PC? Do you just save it all to some kind of NAS or server and retrieve from there?

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Looks like Ceton Echo is going to be $179.

Hell... might as well just find some Xboxs with RROD and fix'em.

 

1. I'll answer the first one. To use the Windows Media Center extender functionality I have been told you do NOT need an Xbox Live Gold account and I believe I have even used it a few times without being logged in. That said for the Netflix and Xfinity and HBO apps you do need a Gold account. At first this bothered me until I realized that every few months you can find someone selling a 12 month Xbox Live Gold card for $35 dollars (a cheap deal in grand scheme)

 

2. As far as sharing all the shows, if you are using an extender it is automatically connecting to the main PC that has WMC (and which is the one with the cable card and receiving the actual content). It automatically spots the recorded tv folders and other folders automatically. (Did I say automatically too many times? lol)

 

That said I also can access those recorded shows from any of my windows 7 pc's and through their WMC function by merely going into the configuration and locating that shared folder on the network. For the most part this is ok unless you hit content that is listed as copy once. In those cases those shows will only play on the MAIN computer that recorded them OR on the extenders, but not on any other PC.

    
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Werds - when you use another W7 machine with WMC for an extender, then you should be able to get Hulu and Netflix directly, right? I've been wanting to get Hulu on my Linksys DMA2100 media extender (which I think works great as a media extender - it doesn't seem slow or anything, except it doesn't do hulu or any internet content), but haven't found a good solution, yet.
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To get Hulu and netflix to work on an extender you need two programs, Tubecentric and Playon and it will work. There are quite a few guides to do it, not too complicated but it will be slow but works alright. You have to buy each programs for about $40 each.
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Werds - when you use another W7 machine with WMC for an extender, then you should be able to get Hulu and Netflix directly, right? I've been wanting to get Hulu on my Linksys DMA2100 media extender (which I think works great as a media extender - it doesn't seem slow or anything, except it doesn't do hulu or any internet content), but haven't found a good solution, yet.

 

Yes that is correct since the PC will be it's own separate entity and does not play be the extender rules. But when using a PC as a faux extender you lose the functionality that extenders bring - the recording schedule and guide all in one location that all extenders see the same. shared recording space. The ability to view premium content that has been recorded on more than one machine. Now if you use a networked tuner like the Ceton InfiniTV6-ETH or the Silicon Dust HR Prime then you could just assign those tuners to a specific faux extender but anything recorded say in the bedroom faux extender on something like HBO for example would only be viewable there in that room and not on any other faux extender elsewhere in your house.

 

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To get Hulu and netflix to work on an extender you need two programs, Tubecentric and Playon and it will work. There are quite a few guides to do it, not too complicated but it will be slow but works alright. You have to buy each programs for about $40 each.

 

These are available and possible - but warning, if you go this route be aware that there is a little bit of blue smoke you must deal with as sometimes it works perfectly fine and other times it might not... or worst case as happened to me - it worked fine and then with no warning stopped working altogether! (A year down the road from the last time I messed with it I believe I know what may have caused my setup to puke when trying this but it is only a guess at this point as I have never attempted to revisit the issue)

    
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These are available and possible - but warning, if you go this route be aware that there is a little bit of blue smoke you must deal with as sometimes it works perfectly fine and other times it might not... or worst case as happened to me - it worked fine and then with no warning stopped working altogether! (A year down the road from the last time I messed with it I believe I know what may have caused my setup to puke when trying this but it is only a guess at this point as I have never attempted to revisit the issue)

Hmm, that is worst case, as I was hoping to figure out within the 30-day money-back guarantee period whether or not this would work. I ended up trying playon with vmcPlayit, and it sort of works, but is kind of glitchy. I complained to Playon, and they just said "too bad; we never intended this to work with Media Center. We didn't develop Playit, and don't support it." When I pressed further, they said I could try tubecore, but again said that I was on my own. I thought I hear that PlayOn had been doing something to block Tubecore. Is that not the case?
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These are available and possible - but warning, if you go this route be aware that there is a little bit of blue smoke you must deal with as sometimes it works perfectly fine and other times it might not... or worst case as happened to me - it worked fine and then with no warning stopped working altogether! (A year down the road from the last time I messed with it I believe I know what may have caused my setup to puke when trying this but it is only a guess at this point as I have never attempted to revisit the issue)

Hmm, that is worst case, as I was hoping to figure out within the 30-day money-back guarantee period whether or not this would work. I ended up trying playon with vmcPlayit, and it sort of works, but is kind of glitchy. I complained to Playon, and they just said "too bad; we never intended this to work with Media Center. We didn't develop Playit, and don't support it." When I pressed further, they said I could try tubecore, but again said that I was on my own. I thought I hear that PlayOn had been doing something to block Tubecore. Is that not the case?

 

I am going off of memory here so please forgive my inaccuracy. But yes from what I remember one of the two is a larger company, the larger company had a paid feature that they were providing in their recent version of software. They then noticed that the smaller company provided a way to bypass the need to pay for said features if a user used both of their software together (as it had been for a while). Bigger company makes veiled threat/request for them to remove the ability to use those features. Smaller company stands up and says hell no! Since this occurred things just don't work well together as bigger company has made good on threat to retaliate in this manner.

 

I do not claim to be a first party to this situation nor have intimate knowledge, this is what I remember occurring based on what I saw as it occurred. Some parties may have different interpretations of what occured :(

    
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