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post #1 of 17
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Hey guys quick question. I am looking to get into watercooling but I have 0 experience. I was looking at starting out with a XSPC kit for and an Arc Midi case. I have a 2700k at 4.6ghz with a NH-D14 and a XFX 7970. Would you guys recommend watercooling my GPU (I dont OC it), and if so, should I do it on the same loop? I was looking at RayStorm 750 RX360.
post #2 of 17
Watercooling the GPU really depends on the stock fan if you aren't going to overclock it. Another thing watercooling has over air besides temperature reduction is the reduction of noise. I have had GPU fans that sound like lawn mowers when they are running at 50% or higher. The fans on the radiator don't have to work as hard as a heatsink fan.

If you get a Raystorm, I would recommend the version with the D5 pump if you can afford it.
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post #3 of 17
The XSPC 750 is a wonderful "all in one" cooler to start with. You can add to it later if you wish, but with your hardware, you won't need to. One thing I would suggest with that kit ... by some after market tubing. Yeah it comes with 2m of tubing already, but it's cheap stuff that tends to "cloud up" after a time. I'd personally get some Durelene tubing from here in addition: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/dupvctu7id5o.html

You also might want to pick up a "silver coil" to prevent "biologicals" forming in your distilled water: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/IandH_Silver_KillCoils_-_Antimicrobial_999_Fine_Silver_Tubing_Reservoir_Strip.html

I personally water cool my CPU and both GPU's on the same loop. Granted it's a much bigger loop, but still, same principles.

With that system, you can start out with just water cooling the CPU, and later, add your video card.

Even if you don't overclock your video card, adding water cooling to it will allow your system to run very quiet, especially when you are pushing that video card from gaming or folding.

I would, for the first time water cooler, just go with a single loop. The temperature difference between a single and a dual loop is only 1C or 2C, and unless you are really going to push the envelope, the added complexity of a dual loop isn't worth it, IMO.
post #4 of 17
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Yea I mostly want the noise reduction for the GPU since I dont OC it. But would a raystorm with the d5 pump be enough to cool both?
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by frozne View Post

If you get a Raystorm, I would recommend the version with the D5 pump if you can afford it.

Not a bad recommendation. I like D5 pumps.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16071/ex-wat-211/XSPC_Raystorm_EX360_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Included_and_Free_Kill_Coil_.html

Also comes with a free "Silver Coil" ... as do the other kits (I just noticed).
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by Harbec View Post

Yea I mostly want the noise reduction for the GPU since I dont OC it. But would a raystorm with the d5 pump be enough to cool both?

Yes. As a general rule of thumb, you want 1 120mm worth of radiator for each device you are going to cool, plus 1 120mm. So for just a CPU or video card, you should get a 240mm radiator. For a CPU and video card, a 360 is good. You can also get a little more volume with the 140mm radiators, but they Raystorm doesn't make a kit like that and 140mm radiators are a little harder to mount in many cases.

Oh, I almost forgot, you will need to pick up 3 120mm fans to blow across the radiator. I'd recommend something in the 1200-1450 RPM range so as to not be noisy, yet still move enough air across the radiator to effectively cool.
post #7 of 17
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As far as fans go, I've read static pressure is something to consider. Any recommendations? Maybe noctuas? Ugly but they work for my air cooler.
post #8 of 17
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As far as fans go, I've read static pressure is something to consider. Any recommendations? Maybe noctuas? Ugly but they work for my air cooler.

Noctua are great fans, but I do agree with you, unless you don't plan on seeing the inside of your computer (or in my case, using an external water cooling system), they aren't the best looking fan to look at.

My personal preference was the Scythe "Gentle Typhoon" @ 1450RPM: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10210/fan-654/Scythe_Gentle_Typhoon_120mm_x_25mm_Fan_-_1450_RPM_D1225C12B4AP-14.html

They have good static pressure and run extremely quiet for as much air as they move (50CFM of air at 21dBA of noise with a pressure of 85 m³/h).
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok cool! One other question lol. I have a silverstone ft02 and I love the simplistic and sharp look of it. I dont really want to watercool it since that defeats the purpose of the case. It's also huge! Any recommendation for a smaller case that has the same style? Arc midi for example is nice. I really need a side window too. Oh and + rep to you sir for all your help biggrin.gif
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Harbec View Post

Ok cool! One other question lol. I have a silverstone ft02 and I love the simplistic and sharp look of it. I dont really want to watercool it since that defeats the purpose of the case. It's also huge! Any recommendation for a smaller case that has the same style? Arc midi for example is nice. I really need a side window too. Oh and + rep to you sir for all your help biggrin.gif

Actually, the FT02 is an AWESOME case to put a water cooling setup in.

A friend of mine who posts on here, lowfat, uses that case almost exclusively, and he makes that case look simply incredible.






As far as another case, lemme think on that for a bit (I'm knee deep at work right now). What sort of money are you looking to spend on a new case if you don't use your FT02?
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