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Every other cable Apple sells directly is $29.99... what's to stop this from being the same? It still looks to be the same crap that falls apart after a month because Apple cares more about how the cable looks than its functionality. After my iPhone cable died, I purchased a different brand and it's held up much better.

I've got a couple of old Apple cables that have been cross country with me a couple of times and are still holding up great after 2-3 years. tongue.gif

Only 1 has actually fallen apart for little/no reason.

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I've got a couple of old Apple cables that have been cross country with me a couple of times and are still holding up great after 2-3 years. tongue.gif
Only 1 has actually fallen apart for little/no reason.

The pretty white finish peeled off and the protective shielding started to go away too. Right now it's wrapped in electrical tape to prevent it from shorting out on something. It happened on my sister's cable too... I assumed it was quite common.

I have 2 semi-broken iPhone USB cables. One of them the white shielding near the iPhone 30 pin connector was ripping off so I put some electrical tape to hold it together. The other one, the 'push/squeeze to hook/unhook" thing came loose and i currently have a rubber band holding it together. jealoussmiley.gif

But it seems inevitable if you haul them in your pack everywhere you go during my service in the Army in Alaska. rolleyes.gif
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God forbid Apple allow the iPhone to use a standard USB cable like everyone else. Worth 700 billion dollars and they gotta make that extra $10 on proprietary cables... doh.gif
The proprietary connector allows for more functionality which is why it was chosen. If they just used a micro USB then all it could be used for is syncing rather than audio and video output and whatever else...

Because the microUSB connector in my SGSII can't do th-oh wait, it can. There's no reason other than plain greed (ie. Sell more cables) to use a custom connector that at the very least doesn't fit a normal USB connector like HTC used to.
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This.
When my company provided iPhone dies, I will NOT be getting another one. Problem is, the damn thing won't die. Maybe it's time I run over the damn thing with my hog.

I believe you just complemented the iPhone while trying to insult it. biggrin.gif

Anyways, as above, it can do much more than a standard usb cable.

No, it can't. A port doesn't tie the electrical interface down, Apple could use a god-damn IDE connector if they wanted to; using the USB connector for USB, USB OTG and MHL has been done before.
    
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The proprietary connector allows for more functionality which is why it was chosen. If they just used a micro USB then all it could be used for is syncing rather than audio and video output and whatever else...

Because the microUSB connector in my SGSII can't do th-oh wait, it can. There's no reason other than plain greed (ie. Sell more cables) to use a custom connector that at the very least doesn't fit a normal USB connector like HTC used to.
Actually you're mistaken. Firstly MHL was founded in September 2009 which is long after the iPhone's original introduction, and secondly the dock connector supports a lot more functionality than that. I listed only two commons things, but there's about a total of twenty different things Apple's dock connector supported. Much of which is obsolete today which is why Apple is shifting to a smaller dock connector.
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Apple likes to sell a lot of proprietary adapters with their products. I remember my old MBP could not connect to a display projector like other computers because it required an $80 adapter cable. It kind of comes with the territory with Apple products.
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Apple will milk the hell out of this $0.22 cable.

It could've been worse than $10 per cable.

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$10 for a cable is taking the piss.
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I believe you just complemented the iPhone while trying to insult it. biggrin.gif
Anyways, as above, it can do much more than a standard usb cable.

Yes. It's a good phone.

Of course I know if I just removed it from the Otterbox case, it would also most likely die a horrible death in a couple months. biggrin.gif
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Micro-USB can do audio and video wth.gif MHL connectors, anyone?
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The proprietary connector allows for more functionality which is why it was chosen. If they just used a micro USB then all it could be used for is syncing rather than audio and video output and whatever else...

Because the microUSB connector in my SGSII can't do th-oh wait, it can. There's no reason other than plain greed (ie. Sell more cables) to use a custom connector that at the very least doesn't fit a normal USB connector like HTC used to.
Actually you're mistaken. Firstly MHL was founded in September 2009 which is long after the iPhone's original introduction, and secondly the dock connector supports a lot more functionality than that. I listed only two commons things, but there's about a total of twenty different things Apple's dock connector supported. Much of which is obsolete today which is why Apple is shifting to a smaller dock connector.

And what exactly does the average consumer actually do that can't be included in MHL? Why couldn't Apple integrate USB3 and then extend the functionality of an MHL-like service (If not MHL itself) to use the extra pins for some more outputs? Even USB OTG is pretty over the top for most people.
    
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And what exactly does the average consumer actually do that can't be included in MHL? Why couldn't Apple integrate USB3 and then extend the functionality of an MHL-like service (If not MHL itself) to use the extra pins for some more outputs? Even USB OTG is pretty over the top for most people.

Does MHL support analog out? I'v tried finding a pinout diagram for the S3 11 pin MHL implementation but haven't found anything on it. I know I use a number of iPhone accessories that use the analog audio out pin on the iPhone, which does not require a digital decoder. As someone who treats their phone as a music player first, and a phone second, audio out without relying on two cables is a very nice feature to have.
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