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I have a Benq 120hz and the mouse pointer is really moving smooth.

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I didnt like any crts before
"you didnt find a good one"

Well it's a perfectly valid assertion. In fact, that's grounds for an interesting question right there: What CRT monitors have you yourself used? For all I know, you might never have even owned anything other than a budget monitor - CRT or LCD - in which case you'd be in no position to argue either way and all your posts thus far would make perfect sense.
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Well it's a perfectly valid assertion. In fact, that's grounds for an interesting question right there: What CRT monitors have you yourself used? For all I know, you might never have even owned anything other than a budget monitor - CRT or LCD - in which case you'd be in no position to argue either way and all your posts thus far would make perfect sense.

Cause im going to rememebr all the CRT's i dont care about.
The point is not wether or not i "havent found the right one"
The point is, no matter how many times I or someone else says they dont give a hoot about CRT's for WHATEVER reason, yall CRT elitists keep on truckin back.

Im done here. I hate arguing with hard heads.
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Its simply the reason i see for people bashing on others who preffer their flatscreens.
The shortmindedness of the people who continue to insult people over liking LCD for WHATEVER reason just kinda gets on my nerves.
Its energy efficiant
"thats not good enough"
its space efficiant
"thats not good enough"
I didnt like any crts before
"you didnt find a good one"
At this point im just thinking "shut up and stop forcing it on people"
its like a homophobe trying to convince a gay person they just havent found the right girl yet, its stupid.

I can understand that.
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I am a little late to the thread but the video seems to show just how bad the mouse lag is in BF3, even at 120hz. Wow. eek.gif
    
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The things i didn't like about CRT.. (used many working in I.T in the old days)

mega expensive compared to the sizes we have today
most had a bulbous front and not flat (not everyone had a super flat trinitron)
scan lines even at high hertz
whites were yellowy over time
glass with grain filter looked horrid
convergence issues
massive size
massive weight ( we had to carry monitors up flights of stairs in tech support back then!)
ugly cases from the 80`s
power draw
screen whine

truly, the best CRT was better in many ways (motion, blacks) but it was also out of reach for many. It limited so many things, we wouldn't of had Trippe, quadruple, portrait eyefinity for a start for less than 350 pounds / dollars, making peoples setups look ace on this forum

no, CRT had its place (irradiating peoples faces) and that place is thankfully now the great computer shop in the sky.


the past .. notice lack of desk space, bezel, screen size etc.. Do you REALLY want us all to go back to that ???

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The present

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the future ? curved OLED 120hz at big resolution ?

ScalableDesktop_-_trade_station.preview_.jpg

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Edited by Pip Boy - 9/16/12 at 2:23pm
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ScalableDesktop_-_trade_station.preview_.jpg

Oh lord yes!!
    
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Do you REALLY want us all to go back to that ???

I don't recall ever saying that everyone should "go back to" CRT.

I took issue with certain individuals - who clearly wouldn't know a quality display if it hit them in the face - trying to convince me that LCD is an acceptable replacement for CRT and repeating the same feeble CRT 'flaws', most of which have absolutely nothing to do with actual image quality.

Coming back to the OP: Watching the video carefully, it's evident that they're running BF3 with V-Sync on. The way he's flicking the view around, it looks like he's mostly sensing for latency. It think that particular test is focusing more on V-Sync latency at 60Hz vs V-Sync latency at 120Hz, rather than the actual difference in frame rate (or potential frame rate - I don't have the game, can anyone tell me whether they'd be pushing a consistent 120fps in there?).
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the future ? curved OLED 120hz at big resolution ?
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No way! biggrin.gif
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I don't recall ever saying that everyone should "go back to" CRT.
I took issue with certain individuals - who clearly wouldn't know a quality display if it hit them in the face - trying to convince me that LCD is an acceptable replacement for CRT and repeating the same feeble CRT 'flaws', most of which have absolutely nothing to do with actual image quality..

I dont reccal anything being said about image quality being "better" on LCD and you completely missed the point of every post i made.
I never ever once tried to argue ANYTHING about LCD image quality, so dont sit there and say that i dont know quality if it hit me in the face.
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I dont reccal anything being said about image quality being "better" on LCD and you completely missed the point of every post i made.
I never ever once tried to argue ANYTHING about LCD image quality, so dont sit there and say that i dont know quality if it hit me in the face.

You were insinuating that LCD was going to somehow 'evolve' out of it's flaws (which I pointed out as being a ridiculous notion, as the most significant flaws are inherent to the very concept of an LCD monitor) and that LCD technology was "integrating" the aspects that make CRT arguably superior and "rapidly making it mainstream". The example you gave was high refresh rate LCD's, which I though was rather ironic as the 'integration' of high refresh rate LCDs has been anything but 'rapid'. Think of how long ago we had high refresh rate CRTs, then how many years after that it took for the 2233RZ to finally emerge. Maybe if we wait until 2020 we'll have LCDs with pixel response and black levels almost as good as CRT... rolleyes.gif Might be longer if LCD manufacturers keep pulling penny-pinching tricks like dropping A-TW polarizers.

My main point was always that the general consumer is a gullible idiot, and that's the reason why display manufacturers have been milking the LCD cash cow for such a painfully long time.
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