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Hi guys, I am pretty much new around here and would like to ask for advices, recommendations, warnings and whatever you think about this, thank you. Well the issue here is that I would like to upgrade my Gateway laptop, not a very good choice but didn't know whistle.gif , model ID49c04h. Now I know there are other models of the series like the very new ones ID49c12u I think it was, they have the i processors and also graphics card, GeForce GT 330m/310m. Do you think it's possible for me to upgrade my laptop to the same components the new models have? if not then how can I improve its performance and raise that graphic ram up for me to play some high spec games?

Well my specs are:
Brand: Gateway
Model: ID49c04h
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
RAM: 4GB ram DDR3, forgot what speed it ran at, about 800 I think it was
Processor: Intel Pentium P6100
Chipset: Intel Express HM55 Chipset
HDD: WD 500GB
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics, about 125MB of graphic memory I think
post #2 of 13
You can't do anything with that machine. Best you could manage would be to potentially upgrade the CPU but that's it.

Only certain machines have an actual discrete GPU that fits in an MXM 3.0b slot, to which the only machines that DO have this slot tend to cost upwards of $1,000. Any machine that's got a GT 650M/HD7850M or higher have this kind of slot.

Unfortunately for the CPU, I am not entirely positive on what kind of cooling your machine has, however it's probably safe to assume that it can handle up to a 35w CPU. As such, the best kind for this dealio would be the i5-580M: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-580M-SLC28-OEM-CPU-2-66GHZ-Faster-than-520m-540m-Free-UPS-DHL-/251117592277?pt=CPUs&hash=item3a77c65ed5

You'd get a sizable boost just from that and the iGPU would receive a substantial boost as well. smile.gif
     
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Thanks a lot for that, I actually disassembled my machine to see its hardware, sinceI couldn't really check it online nor could I find anything with software. Since I also saw that the motherboard has integrated GPU I decided that best I could upgrade the CPU and recently also bought RAM sticks for 8GB memory. I hope that with those changes it allows me to play the games I bought, don't want that money waster for nothing, lol.

Again, thanks for that.
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Well the iGPU in the i5 I linked will be a good bit quicker than the one you have now. tongue.gif So that should help. biggrin.gif
     
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I can imagine, now is just the pain to wait for my wage and off we go ordering that cpu, broke trying to upgrade this pc tongue.gif... Well then again I still have to wait for the cpu to get here... Also I've been thinking, does buying off a motherboard from the newer models work for this one? Just wondering since it came to mind when I opened the laptop, and thanks again for the reply
post #6 of 13
Best option is to do a cost-benefit analysis of sorts. $150 for CPU and RAM, maybe 5% performance gain for gaming.. vs. (how much you can sell the laptop for) + $150(or more?) for (???)% performance gain. And also consider what games you want to play, and what performance you expect. If you want a solid 30% gain over a 330M, you need a 555M. If you just want to go from 45 FPS to 50 FPS, or a couple FPS higher minimum framerate.. upgrading might get you there.

edit: Oh you have Intel HD graphics.. dude. Its a money pit. You can score a solid i3-2310M laptop for $300, sell your's for $250... done.

Yes, i5 will have slightly faster graphics, but it's a lost cause, seeing how few games are playable on low, even with an i5 or i7. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-HD.23065.0.html
Edited by jrbroad77 - 9/6/12 at 6:45pm
 
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post #7 of 13
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I see where you are getting at... true, but the problem would be how to sell, I am a complete beginner when it comes to online selling and in real I got few contacts and I would like to keep stuff as steady as I can without replacing them, however if it really needs to be done I might as do what you say and get myself a better laptop. It's a tentative advice and thanks for replying. I've also wondered if this laptop can be overclocked somehow? If not then leave it be, and to get to another point I've heard of external GPU's, any comments on that?
post #8 of 13
External GPU is indeed an option, if you want one working out of the box, you probably need an ExpressCard slot. http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock


Otherwise, there's a DIY option.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/e-gpu-external-graphics-discussion/418851-diy-egpu-experiences.html

It's not possible to overclock that CPU (it's a Core-i based CPU.. impossible to OC them in laptops, excluding the -XM, 55W Extreme CPUs).

Basically, what framerates are you getting now, what do you want to get (for games you play)? If you don't mind playing on low, you might get 10-20% higher frames with a high-clocked i5, in some games (negligible in others). Using Windows Classic theme can help by ~3%. It's not going to be impressive. It's just important to keep realistic expectations before you waste say $100-150 for negligible gain.

As for selling, you can more-or-less steal an ebay listing for a used laptop from a successful seller as a template. Or just throw together a quick ad on Craigslist. Backing up your HDD is the biggest hassle from selling, IMO (and realizing you're asking too much, having to lower price frown.gif ) ; and I've sold about 12 used laptops on the side so I have a bit of experience.
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Lol, am sorry for asking so much and thanks a lot for helping me here. As for games I'm trying to play Battlefied 3; I know, it's far leagues over my laptop's capacity but I don't want to waste my money spent on it too, where as I also got Guild Wars 2 where by the end noticed that I wasted all I had left... impulse shopping... yeah... that's a bish... well over with that I think I might just go with the external GPU's and the laptop-selling plan but I have to wait for my packages to arrive first, have to try on the new components and see if they make a difference or not and later will decide what to do.
Thanks a lot guys, you've been great help and I hope that I can help too in the future like you.
post #10 of 13
You won't have to overclock it because it handles that with Turbo Boost. It pushes up to 3.33GHz on it's own for a single core and naturally pushes up to 3.06GHz for two cores.

As for selling the machine, the performance difference between a Sandy i3 and the i5-580M are nil. Essentially it'd be a sidegrade in every respect, with the benefit going to the i5 moreso than the newer i3.
     
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256GB SanDisk M.2 SSD 1TB HGST 7.2k HDD Custom Cooling by Dell Solutions Windows 10 Home 64-Bit 
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Intel Core i7-2760QM Toshiba Qosmio X775 Nvidia 1.5GB GTX 560M 8GB DDR3 1333 
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