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Dont! If you leave it on for to long it will become to smart. You might think ok hey my computer is getting smarter this is a good thing. Wrong! If you arent careful it will sooner or later turn your case into legs and walk out of your house and start skynet. So yes if you leave that button on to long the world as we know it will come to a end.
God you think this would be something they put in the user manual...

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On this OCGenie II,
If I just push the button and dont mess with any of the settings, is it ok just to let it stay in that state
for now on or is there a time when I should turn it off?

Press the button, reboot, open a temp monitor program, run a stress test to make sure your temps aren't too high at 100%load, if its not high leave it on and you're good to go, IF its going past 80c stop the stress test, press the button to turn off oc genie and reboot, try to figure out why your temps are so high.
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How to run stress test?
post #114 of 3634
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How to run stress test?

google prime95 or Intel Burn Test v2.54, you really don't need to run them for the whole test (only if you want to check stability of your rig), if you're just checking temps you can wait till temps peak then stop the test.

N use Realtemp to keep an eye on temps while the test is running.
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I wrote a review on newegg about this mobo and have mentioned that it doesn't support offset overclocking, msi responded to my review and confirmed that this board doesn't have that option. I don't consider this a real overclocking board without offset option, hack my friends $100 asrock mobo lets him overclock in offset mode.

Depends on your idea/process of overclocking, I consider myself an overclocker & have no interest in using offset mode. From what I see with the mpower, it is a real overclocking board. I wouldn't consider most Asrock boards to be overclocking boards, their new OC Formula is the first I've seen worth me even looking at (me personally, I don't knock other Asrock boards since they do well for what other people want).
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Sorry Scorpion49...But heck, with all the blue LEDs going on now I guess I should have thought twice about that paint idea...LOL
This was my first sleeve job, I kinda like doing it. I still have work to go on it, I want to get a custom paint job on the test bench
case and maybye go water block on tthe CPU or something.
This whole mod thing and build is all becuse I found this board and wanted to have it...LOL


Tell me about it, I have blue cold cathodes in my case too! Its a very blue build but I think that will change sooner or later.
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I had to read this like 5 times before I figured out what you were talking about. That quote in my sig is directed at THIS.... I love your build. I have the same RAM, although I have a 680 lightning so I didn't have to paint mine. I actually thought yours was too, it wasn't until the other guy pointed it out that I noticed you have the 7870 Hawk.
My parts from page 1: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Scorpion - you put the comment that threw him into words that are much more appropriate than what I blurted out when I first saw that (ugh) :/

I am loving the builds I am seeing - my 3770K is back and now going into the board and another board I am messing around with. I am waiting for a couple others to get here that are better for the cold I plan to bring lol.
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post #118 of 3634
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Depends on your idea/process of overclocking, I consider myself an overclocker & have no interest in using offset mode. From what I see with the mpower, it is a real overclocking board. I wouldn't consider most Asrock boards to be overclocking boards, their new OC Formula is the first I've seen worth me even looking at (me personally, I don't knock other Asrock boards since they do well for what other people want).
What are considered useful board features & bios options vary for different individuals & particular goals.

I too find that offsets drive me crazy on any board, but on an overclocking board having a specific set voltage is absolutely needed. I think that most overclockers I know would agree - and that is not overclocking for a daily rig types. People that push it to the limits need to have reliable means of setting voltages, as well as power users who want a reliable way to understand what they are setting value X to. I also think that the Your Asrock statement is correct - the new board designed by Nick Shih is their best board to date ( hes a friend and I don't know if he sleeps lol - works hard and plays D3 insanely well tongue.gif) but I did have a daily runner for about 5 months or so on the z68 extreme3gen3 - at about 115usd - yes you can OC, but it is Not an overclocking board - I spent a full day fighting the BIOS when it threw fits - absolutely maddening times but was able to be ok for a while when it behaved.

Point being that there is no substitute for a well made and properly performing piece of HW.
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I dont think its the offset necessarily that people would like but the ability to control the voltage in some way other than auto and allow the voltage to drop on idle. Its just that on 1155 boards offset is used as another way of voltage control that allows a low idle voltage so its naturally looked for as another option of voltage control (dont know about previous Intel sockets since I came from AM3(which allows set exact value and reduced voltage) to 1155). I know I would love to set the value exactly rather than figuring out an offset but I dont want it to sit at that voltage 24/7. On this board you can A) set the voltage directly and leave it at that voltage whenever the computer is on, or B) use the auto option but depending on the chip it might get to a rather high value but you get to keep your idle low. I got a decent chip I think, on auto the highest the voltage hits is 1.224v while left on auto using an +50% Vdroop offset puts it at 1.208v on heavy load for a 4.5ghz oc. Yeah I could just leave it at 1.208 manually but it brings with it unnecessary heat and energy draw. Even then as an "overclocking board" MSI said it wasnt made to go head to head with the ROG or UD/P7 series but targets the mainstream segment.

P.S. If there is some setting in the UEFI I'm missing that allows the voltage to drop while using exact value let us know. This UEFI version still seems a little alien to me, coming from Asus' version.
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post #120 of 3634
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P.S. If there is some setting in the UEFI I'm missing that allows the voltage to drop while using exact value let us know. This UEFI version still seems a little alien to me, coming from Asus' version.

I've created some screenshots to help you out with this, the BIOS is slightly confusing for someone used to Asus style.


First go into the OC section: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
msBS0001_zps53f19fe4.jpg

Then scroll to the bottom. You can set your voltage here and then go to the cpu features selection at the very bottom: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
msBS0003_zps3e93999a.jpg

In the CPU features tab, make sure C1E is on (this is the one that will drop it to lower idle clocks), you can also enable other C-states. Some OC's aren't stable with the extra states on, and also some have reported SSD performance problems with C3/C6 on. Thats up to you. Also note the green arrows, the long and short duration power limits can have an effect on high overclocks (I.E. the board will throttle if the CPU goes over this limit). Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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