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post #1311 of 3634
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Originally Posted by johnnyw View Post

Seems like its not possible to OC with this board(or any msi Z77 board on that matter) the way that voltage drops at idle if you oc manually, ive searched all morning & everywhere they say voltage only drops at idle only when you leave vcore to auto. Not really option atleast not for me as auto gives insane voltages.
About that OC genie, I Dont think it makes any difference really if you oc on that or standart mode. Its basicly same things you change anyway just in different location smile.gif
But correct me if im wrong, i just cant see what difference that would make.

The board has no offset voltage provision in full sense of whats expected.

Its not an A*** style of doing it.

I have used several of A*** high end boards with offset use on each

The cpu voltage is fixed all the time on this 'board but can have its v droop altered

This board won't shorten the life of cpu if settings done properly with cpu heat sink, case air throughput done right

All these cpus have internal throttle down features anyway if to much heat is developed.
post #1312 of 3634
Im not really concerned about lacking offset or its affects to temp/cpu life.

I just think its bit silly that MSI have left out offset option as its great feature for overclock you use daily, it saves power and also runs cooler so for everyday use so it sounds like nobrainer, doesnt it smile.gif

If anything would just want to hear some explanation why they have decided to implement it this way, MSI seems to be one and only manufacturer for that doesnt have offset oc option if you want to do so.


But seems like i wont be overlocking much anyway now as this chip seems to be quite a lemon. Needs around 1.24v even to be stable at 4.4GHz and temps are rather high allready so wont be getting much higher than that.
Edited by johnnyw - 12/20/12 at 4:25am
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post #1313 of 3634
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Im not really concerned about lacking offset or its affects to temp/cpu life.
I just think its bit silly that MSI have left out offset option as its great feature for overclock you use daily, it saves power and also runs cooler so for everyday use so it sounds like nobrainer, doesnt it smile.gif
If anything would just want to hear some explanation why they have decided to implement it this way, MSI seems to be one and only manufacturer for that doesnt have offset oc option if you want to do so.
But seems like i wont be overlocking much anyway now as this chip seems to be quite a lemon. Needs around 1.24v even to be stable at 4.4GHz and temps are rather high allready so wont be getting much higher than that.



Oh well they, msi never advertised as to having offset as you must know.
I read their motherboard manual before I bought the board knew that going in.
Its to bad you think you have a lemon but alas no cpu has a guarantee of overclock they are all different.
It depends on the settings as well quite a few in hybrid digital and cpu features
Edited by Tyreman - 12/20/12 at 10:13am
post #1314 of 3634
Well they dont advertise it, but so doesnt asus or asrock etc either as offset voltage is very basic function at intel boards these days. Honestly didnt even think this would lack it . But as i said its not big deal and not any kind of dealbreaker, just weird decision to leave it out imo.

CPU:s are always lottery if you dont get 2 hand one that is guaranteed to OC to some extent so cant complain on that, just unlucky nothing else and for daily use wont make much difference anyway if you run it with 200-300mhz lower.
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Im not really concerned about lacking offset or its affects to temp/cpu life.
I just think its bit silly that MSI have left out offset option as its great feature for overclock you use daily, it saves power and also runs cooler so for everyday use so it sounds like nobrainer, doesnt it smile.gif
If anything would just want to hear some explanation why they have decided to implement it this way, MSI seems to be one and only manufacturer for that doesnt have offset oc option if you want to do so.
But seems like i wont be overlocking much anyway now as this chip seems to be quite a lemon. Needs around 1.24v even to be stable at 4.4GHz and temps are rather high allready so wont be getting much higher than that.

I need to run 1.3v cpu core for my 3770k @ 4.5ghz, and I run water cooling. I believe they advertise 4.5ghz overclock under liquid cooling, not air. Also mine even gets hot running prime for 24hrs, under normal loads and games it almost never goes above 60, but under prime95 it can hit 70-80c on cores.
post #1316 of 3634
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You need to overclock the turbo by setting core limit in cpu features for each core not the ratio limit on the main oc page.

Is the only way to OC on this board through adjusting the turbo ratio? I did it by disabling turbo and enhanced turbo and just setting the cpu ratio to 45 and upping Vcore. It's stable and seems to work fine. Was this a mistake?
post #1317 of 3634
No its not a mistake but if you want your chip to downclock and downvoltage at idle then you need to do it by the turbo route. For those people who want stable 4.4-4.6 ghz on auto so your voltage scales down at idle you need to up the vdroop control from auto to 12.5 or above depending what you need stability wise. The vdroop will dictate your voltage when in auto mode so at 100% my chip was loading st 1.376 volts there abouts I have it at 25% giving me a load of 1.296 for my 4.4 and since vcore is set to auto It scales down when needed
Edited by primal92 - 12/20/12 at 4:11pm
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Few pics of my MPower based comp. Sry about bad quality.






OT: Is it possible to rotate pics somehow?
Edited by johnnyw - 12/21/12 at 12:16am
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Here is my overclock to 4.4GHz with power limit set to :
Short 160W
Long 140W

The temps are good tongue.gif



And here is the Cinebench Test biggrin.gif


Edited by ShadyGaby - 12/21/12 at 1:07am
post #1320 of 3634
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Here is my overclock to 4.4GHz with power limit set to :
Short 160W
Long 140W
The temps are good tongue.gif

And here is the Cinebench Test biggrin.gif

Thats good stuff mate but you could leave power limit at the maximum since the power draw of the cpu really depends on the voltage. So if you decide to increase you oc and increase your vcore your power limit will throttle your chip. I keep my limits at 250 so dont have to bother with it ever. 
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