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Been a while since I've been in the serious overclocking game and am hitting a wall with some setting that must be gooned up somewhere. OCGenie took my 3570k to 4.2 as expected but I cant seem to get any further in Control Center. Memory is 2x4GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 (XMP loaded up properly and went to 2133mhz in BIOS) in DIMMs 2 and 4 (1 is blocked by a Hyper 212 Evo). All settings are default in Control Center and with the voltage on auto, it varies between 1.44-1.60v at little to no load. When I start Prime95, voltage drops to 1.096-1.104 under 100% load. I didnt figure that would be a big deal and I could offset this with the vdroop (why isnt that available in CC...). It seems to be very stable with these settings but what I cant figure out is why the voltage doesnt come back up when I end Prime95? If I select 1.160v in CC manually, the voltage will display the same results but it will BSOD shortly after executing Prime95 (no other changes from default and still no vdroop adjustment). BIOS is 17.5 as indicated in CC.

Edit: I take it back, the voltage did return to normal after exiting Prime95 with the OCGenie settings but doesnt when I input a manual Core Voltage entry of 1.150v (or any other entry I make).

Any ideas on where to start?

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Edited by madweazl - 12/28/12 at 12:31pm
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post #1412 of 3634
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The Z77 does not support 3x SLI. To answer your Q though... you can still use the bottom pci-e with 2x GPUs installed.

Ok but why was my SLI disabled when i put my Xonar DX in the 3rd slot?
post #1413 of 3634
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Just wondering what this means as if it means what I think it says then I need to learn something new.
I thought Z77 boards do support SLI. I own one and I run SLI with two GPUs, as I did with my Z68.
When I had a MPower I ran it SLI 8x/8x. And I ran it with a soundcard in the top PCIe slot (closest to CPU).
So I do not think you are saying that they can't, but are instead saying something else and I just did not understand it.

If i may ask what sound card did you get to fit there?
post #1414 of 3634
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Just wondering what this means as if it means what I think it says then I need to learn something new.
I thought Z77 boards do support SLI. I own one and I run SLI with two GPUs, as I did with my Z68.
When I had a MPower I ran it SLI 8x/8x. And I ran it with a soundcard in the top PCIe slot (closest to CPU).
So I do not think you are saying that they can't, but are instead saying something else and I just did not understand it.

If i may ask what sound card did you get to fit there?

No problem KEL888. I have a Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe (it is in my sig too!). I had it in the slot closest to the CPU, then the two GPUs in SLI. That left one slot space (where the second PCIe slot was) between the GPUs so that they could cool better. SLI worked fine at 8x/8x. Hope yours will too if you use the same slot configuration.

Hey, I found a pic of my MPower config above so you can better see what I am saying. The sound card is the short card between the GPU and the CPU below in the first PCIe slot (hard to see, but it is there):

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Edited by PCWargamer - 12/28/12 at 7:50pm
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Can you help i want to overclock my intel core i7-3770k up to 5 ghz can you help me i have a msi z77 mpower mainboard and an corsair h60

I'm not sure but I don't think it is possible to hit 5ghz on the H60 unless you have a golden chip that will do very low volts at 5ghz. The heat from the 3770k will be to much for the H60 I think but dont quote me on that but Im pretty sure it wont

ericlee30 is correct bippo5 that you will run into a temp issue on your way to 5GHz with an Ivy Bridge.

What you can do is start with a more modest 4.2GHz OC, and then work it up to see what vcore and temps are needed as you go. Somewhere before you ger to 5GHz you will already see temps too high to run any stability bench such as prime95 or IBT. And some of your games may have higher temps than you will want too. You may be able to get to prime stable 4.4-4.5GHz with a H60, or maybe a little more, before temps become an issue.

As others have noted, you can get a better cooler (H80, H100, D14), and they will be better that the H60, but the Ivy will still have temp issues even with a custom loop due to the issues related to the die/IHS gap problem that no HSF can solve.

Only real solution to get to usable (stable) 5GHz on Ivy Bridge is to delid it to remove the glue and gap (and Intel TIM) and use some CL PRO or Ultra between the die and IHS. That will solve the temp issue. Check out the deliding link in my sig if your are interested in learning more and if you want to get a 5GHz stable 3770K. Lots of help from the people there who have done it already.
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A remark on setting the overclock multiplier to the highest allowed turbo for each core and leaving all other settings in their stock configuration: this does allow for ramping down of clock rates during idle, but I don't think this method results in optimally aggressive scaling of the multiplier during load. In games it's often staying at x16 when in fact the game is CPU limited (StarCraft II). This results in an fps of ~100 in situations where the FPS is easily 290-300.
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

No problem KEL888. I have a Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe (it is in my sig too!). I had it in the slot closest to the CPU, then the two GPUs in SLI. That left one slot space (where the second PCIe slot was) between the GPUs so that they could cool better. SLI worked fine at 8x/8x. Hope yours will too if you use the same slot configuration.
Hey, I found a pic of my MPower config above so you can better see what I am saying. The sound card is the short card between the GPU and the CPU below in the first PCIe slot (hard to see, but it is there):
Testing and benching a new motherboard

Cool thanks dude. I am using x2 MSI GTX 680 lightnings so that little pcb card on top of the cards are going to be an issue.
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A remark on setting the overclock multiplier to the highest allowed turbo for each core and leaving all other settings in their stock configuration: this does allow for ramping down of clock rates during idle, but I don't think this method results in optimally aggressive scaling of the multiplier during load. In games it's often staying at x16 when in fact the game is CPU limited (StarCraft II). This results in an fps of ~100 in situations where the FPS is easily 290-300.

you have to disable cpu limit as well
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I found some weird kinks on the super heat pipes. Is it normal and will it affect its functionality? From NewEgg one.
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what is this Jturbo something here??

do any one knows what's that for and how does this works?
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