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Might be getting this board, will my g.skill snipers work with it? They're 1866mhz CL9.

I can't say for sure by my experience G.Skill is highly compatible and those specs are pretty average. I don't see why they wouldn't work.
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This is my setup :

- MSI Z77 MPower
- i7 3770K
- Samsung Pro 256Gb ( SSD )
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- Palit GTX 680 Jetstream 4 Gb
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I have OC i7 3770K stable 100.5 x 48 ( 4.824 Ghz ) with nice temp, idle 32 degrees.
My Gpu GTX 680 also OC" ed.

Nice machine! Idle temps aren't very accurate, temps under load are what really matters & ivy bridge does tend to run hot under load, & the cooler the better for longevity of the chip (if you need it to last a long time).

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4.6 Stable overclock with Intelburn. A bit more tweaking to do.


Try it using more memory than the standard setting, makes the machine work harder, at least 2 or 4Gb, something that can reflect real world usage. Max memory is best to really stress test, I usually open a couple browser windows before running so there is a bit of memory free to browse the web while it runs.
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Might be getting this board, will my g.skill snipers work with it? They're 1866mhz CL9.

Should work fine, it's actually not very common to find a memory kit that isn't compatible with a board (some my overclock better on other boards, etc., but it usually works at least)
    
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Should work fine, it's actually not very common to find a memory kit that isn't compatible with a board (some my overclock better on other boards, etc., but it usually works at least)

I still don't understand why the MSI Z77 Mpower doesn't overclock ram as well as other motherboards.


I have a 2x4GB kit of Samsung Green Low Profile 30nm sticks that over clock to 2133mhz 1T CL 9-9-9-24 with only 1.45v. That is very fast for any set of Samsung Green ram and I have seen many others not be able to get this speed with such low voltage but able to get 2400mhz and 2600mhz with looser timings and higher voltage but my sticks are somewhat stuck. Fastest I can get my sticks to go is a little over 2200mhz CL9. Good performance but I feel like they are software locked from the BIOS. Hope MSI works on memory compatibility for over clocking.
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For me so far it has only been the samsung HYKO that are difficult with anything more than 2200Mhz on the mpower. With PSC based mem 2400Mhz with a 1600mhz kit is easy, 2600Mhz is doable. Samsung HCH9 sticks do 2800Mhz (tough to stabilize but they work). 2666 c9 fully stable with vccio at 1.05 & vccsa at 1.0V very easily.

Not sure why the mpower dislikes the samsung green, my asus board does boot it up at 2400 & 2600Mhz. I really only use the samsung in a daily rig since i have other mem kits that do better for benching.
    
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Should work fine, it's actually not very common to find a memory kit that isn't compatible with a board (some my overclock better on other boards, etc., but it usually works at least)

I still don't understand why the MSI Z77 Mpower doesn't overclock ram as well as other motherboards.


I have a 2x4GB kit of Samsung Green Low Profile 30nm sticks that over clock to 2133mhz 1T CL 9-9-9-24 with only 1.45v. That is very fast for any set of Samsung Green ram and I have seen many others not be able to get this speed with such low voltage but able to get 2400mhz and 2600mhz with looser timings and higher voltage but my sticks are somewhat stuck. Fastest I can get my sticks to go is a little over 2200mhz CL9. Good performance but I feel like they are software locked from the BIOS. Hope MSI works on memory compatibility for over clocking.

Wondering, could it be your IMC? Have you found this to be true trying different IBs on the same MPower?
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You can tell by the debug LED, when the memory can't do the speed & timings at the vdimm set the debug will stop at 55, if the IMC can't do it the debug stops at 23.

It is something with the board or bios that doesn't like the low profile HYKO sticks that much, I tried for a while in the mpower & anything above 2200 stops at 55, where in an asus board it boots higher. Samsung ram that isn't HYKO works fine in the mpower (tested with a 2600 c10 kit with samsung HCH9 ICs).
    
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Wondering, could it be your IMC? Have you found this to be true trying different IBs on the same MPower?

I don't think it is the IMC. I have ran Gskill TridenTX 2400mhz over clocked to 2666mhz with with CL10 with the same CPU.


I think it is the mother board BIOS. The same CPU and Z77 Mpower mother board could not even run this ram at 1600mhz CL 11 a few months ago when the Motherboard first came out till MSI did a BIOS update that fixed part of the memory compatibility problems. I've seen high quality set of the Samsung Green low profile 30nm sticks over clocked over 2600mhz on Asus mother board systems. I think MSI needs to work on the ram over clocking BIOS settings.
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You can tell by the debug LED, when the memory can't do the speed & timings at the vdimm set the debug will stop at 55, if the IMC can't do it the debug stops at 23.

It is something with the board or bios that doesn't like the low profile HYKO sticks that much, I tried for a while in the mpower & anything above 2200 stops at 55, where in an asus board it boots higher. Samsung ram that isn't HYKO works fine in the mpower (tested with a 2600 c10 kit with samsung HCH9 ICs).

This makes sense to my experience. I have had good results with the Samung HCH9 based Gskill TridentX 2400mhz CL9 kit overclocked above 2600mhz But with the HYKO I hit a wall at a little over 2200mhz and get the error 55.
It would be great if this is something that could be fixed in the BIOS. I feel like my kit is being held back by the motherboard or motherboard BIOS.

I haven't seen any Samsung Green kits that will run 2133mhz CL 9-11-10-24 1T with only 1.45v. My kit should scale much higher when over clocked beyond 2133mhz but something with the motherboard or BIOS is stopping it.
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For me so far it has only been the samsung HYKO that are difficult with anything more than 2200Mhz on the mpower. With PSC based mem 2400Mhz with a 1600mhz kit is easy, 2600Mhz is doable. Samsung HCH9 sticks do 2800Mhz (tough to stabilize but they work). 2666 c9 fully stable with vccio at 1.05 & vccsa at 1.0V very easily.

Not sure why the mpower dislikes the samsung green, my asus board does boot it up at 2400 & 2600Mhz. I really only use the samsung in a daily rig since i have other mem kits that do better for benching.

So could you please recommend a cheap PSC based kit to try out? smile.gif
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Almost all work pretty well, the higher bin kits are getting hard to find at a decent price. For gskill just have to look for 1040 in the serial # under the barcode (xxxx1040xxxxxx)
My lowest bin PSC is a 1600Mhz 7-8-7 1.65V kit, 2400 9-11-9 at 1.69V. A couple weeks ago got a 1600Mhz 6-8-6 1.6V kit off ebay for less than $4.00 + 10.99 shipping, does as well as a couple of my better kits at 2400 9-11-9 1.65V.

Gonna play with my most recent kit on the mpower tonight, finally got a 2000Mhz 6-9-6 kit, 2200mhz 7-10-7 at 1.56V stable. Should do well at higher Mhz I hope!
    
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