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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

You can tell by the debug LED, when the memory can't do the speed & timings at the vdimm set the debug will stop at 55, if the IMC can't do it the debug stops at 23.

It is something with the board or bios that doesn't like the low profile HYKO sticks that much, I tried for a while in the mpower & anything above 2200 stops at 55, where in an asus board it boots higher. Samsung ram that isn't HYKO works fine in the mpower (tested with a 2600 c10 kit with samsung HCH9 ICs).


Ahh. Thanks for that info FtW 420.

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Wondering, could it be your IMC? Have you found this to be true trying different IBs on the same MPower?

I don't think it is the IMC. I have ran Gskill TridenTX 2400mhz over clocked to 2666mhz with with CL10 with the same CPU.


I think it is the mother board BIOS. The same CPU and Z77 Mpower mother board could not even run this ram at 1600mhz CL 11 a few months ago when the Motherboard first came out till MSI did a BIOS update that fixed part of the memory compatibility problems. I've seen high quality set of the Samsung Green low profile 30nm sticks over clocked over 2600mhz on Asus mother board systems. I think MSI needs to work on the ram over clocking BIOS settings.

Yeah, I can see why you have come to that conclusion SonDa5. Hoping it was something easier to deal with than BIOS.
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post #1622 of 3634
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This is my setup :

- MSI Z77 MPower
- i7 3770K
- Samsung Pro 256Gb ( SSD )
- F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM ( 2 sticks ) of 16 Gb
- Palit GTX 680 Jetstream 4 Gb
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1 x 120 Rad
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- Swiftech MCP35X Pump
- Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir.

I have OC i7 3770K stable 100.5 x 48 ( 4.824 Ghz ) with nice temp, idle 32 degrees.
My Gpu GTX 680 also OC" ed.

i dont see your idle 32 C??? it says 48 C on the image (the max temp ....???)
post #1623 of 3634
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i dont see your idle 32 C??? it says 48 C on the image (the max temp ....???)

Well, I see a minimum temp of 22-25*C so once the loop has warmed up 32 could be a good idle temp. 48*C is probably just after load.
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post #1624 of 3634
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Might be getting this board, will my g.skill snipers work with it? They're 1866mhz CL9.

If they are F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR then yes they do. I have 16gb in mine.

Z77 MPower is also listed on product page on G Skill website as a 'Qualified Motherboard'
post #1625 of 3634
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Try it using more memory than the standard setting, makes the machine work harder, at least 2 or 4Gb, something that can reflect real world usage. Max memory is best to really stress test, I usually open a couple browser windows before running so there is a bit of memory free to browse the web while it runs.

Passes on High (2048mb), haven't got round to any higher than that yet.
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If it runs at x8 will that be a big problem?

The 2nd slot is a physical x8 connection, so if you run a video card in the second slot it will be PCI-E 3.0 x8

Frankly if you're running a single 7870, you won't even max out x8 bandwidth.
    
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The 2nd slot is a physical x8 connection, so if you run a video card in the second slot it will be PCI-E 3.0 x8

Frankly if you're running a single 7870, you won't even max out x8 bandwidth.
Thanks Alex! Regarding the bandwidth, does it make a difference that this 7870 is a Tahiti LE based, so it really isn't a 7870, it is closer to a 7950. I.E., if I wanted to do Crossfire, I would need a 7950 and could not use a regular 7870.
Thanks!!!


Another question: I flashed bios #1 using a USB flashdrive and afterwards, the computer started to reboot, but then the fans and lighted would flash for a half second and would repeat this over and over again. I switched to Bios 2 and started right up. (I didn't look at the DEBUG LED, so I don't know what it had....... redface.gif)

I am guessing that somehow I messed up bios #1. Can I fix this? If I try to reflash it, by switching the switch to bios #1 put a USB flashdrive with new bios on it in USB port and start up my computer, it only does the light and fan flash over and over. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
    
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Almost all work pretty well, the higher bin kits are getting hard to find at a decent price. For gskill just have to look for 1040 in the serial # under the barcode (xxxx1040xxxxxx)
My lowest bin PSC is a 1600Mhz 7-8-7 1.65V kit, 2400 9-11-9 at 1.69V. A couple weeks ago got a 1600Mhz 6-8-6 1.6V kit off ebay for less than $4.00 + 10.99 shipping, does as well as a couple of my better kits at 2400 9-11-9 1.65V.

Gonna play with my most recent kit on the mpower tonight, finally got a 2000Mhz 6-9-6 kit, 2200mhz 7-10-7 at 1.56V stable. Should do well at higher Mhz I hope!

This is a fairly noobish question: What is the advantage to overclocking RAM? This is completely independent of the CPU overclock, right? I am guessing that it would increase scores in benchmarking over stock memory speeds, is this correct? What are the other advantages?

This motherboard supports DDR3-1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*(OC)/2200*/2400*/2600*/2667*/2800*/3000* I have DDR3-1866.

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This is a fairly noobish question: What is the advantage to overclocking RAM? This is completely independent of the CPU overclock, right? I am guessing that it would increase scores in benchmarking over stock memory speeds, is this correct? What are the other advantages?

This motherboard supports DDR3-1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*(OC)/2200*/2400*/2600*/2667*/2800*/3000* I have DDR3-1866.

Cheaptrick - I got the RAID1 to work. Had to reinstall Windows, but got my two 1TB SATA 6.0 GB/s drives in a Mirror RAID1! However, they are plugged into the SATA 3.0 ?GB/s connections on the Mobo rolleyes.gif

Overclocking memory can increase perrformance, it doesn't do much for gaming & graphics applications, but can help with number crunching. Encoding, folding,etc. can get a small boost with faster memory, may or not be noticeable but a performance increase is there.
It generally isn't a big increase like a faster cpu & mostly noticeable in benchmarks, so the expensive high end kits are more for those after better bench scores.
    
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ZDarryl, hopefully Alex can give you an answer. The same thing happened to me on my first MPower...had it not been for the miserable times I've had with MSIs competitors I wouldn't have even given the board a second chane, but I did and all was well. When this happened to me I wasn't able to do anything. I had to make a choice, stick with one Bios (#2) or return to MicroCenter and get a new one. I chose to get a new one.

my concern is that something happened before the flash was completed. Not only that you had to shut down and restart..this leaves an incomplete Bios. I'm starting to wonder if the board is picky about the USB port that is used for flashing because this isn't the first time I've heard about people encountering the boot-cycle of doom after a flash. my only suggestion would be to disconnect all USB devices leaving only your mouse and use the 2 USB ports that are not driver dependent ( top 2) see if that works. Hopefully it will continue from where it left off. Other than that i'm really not sure what to do about a possible Bios corruption. Good luck bud.
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