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what bios y on?
I wouldn't get to uptight about offset voltage my A*** pro was a a pain and it had it.
As for windows disk check let it finish and its done and most likely won't bother again unless a disc issue, had that here on many boards

I have a hard drive that no longer shows up in Windows (shows up in the bios). The check disk drive was for a different drive. Boot manager was also lost but I'm able to still boot from the SSD I have Windows installed on. Everything is just all screwed up now. This is the second or third time this has happened, but this has been worst of all so far because I haven't been able to recover data from the check disk drive this time.
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That was last night. This morning when i started up my RIG it went back to not over clocking the BCLK. frown.gif


I swapped out Samsung Green to some Gskill 2400mhz to see if it may be the ram and that didn't work. SPent about an hour tweaking trying different BIOS options and nothing. The BCLK is stuck at 10000 every time regardless of what I manually set it at. mad.gif


I think the new BIOS CPU features of "Hardware Prefetcher" item and "Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch" options are part of the problem. When I disable hardware prefetcher my memory performance shoots way down. BUGGY!!!!




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MSI fix the BIOS!!!


I haven't had that issue here, but I don't touch the bclk to move things faster, but prolly depends on the type of installed memory ?
You shouldn't be overclocking by adjusting that the bclk anyways that is the wrong way to overclock these
Edited by Tyreman - 1/16/13 at 9:05pm
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I have a hard drive that no longer shows up in Windows (shows up in the bios). The check disk drive was for a different drive. Boot manager was also lost but I'm able to still boot from the SSD I have Windows installed on. Everything is just all screwed up now. This is the second or third time this has happened, but this has been worst of all so far because I haven't been able to recover data from the check disk drive this time.


Both A & B bios the same
Y have flashed the bios with M flash?
Edited by Tyreman - 1/17/13 at 5:01am
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Both A & B bios the same
Y have flashed the bios with M flash?

It didn't have anything to do with the bios. I wanted to see what MSI Fast Boot was all about, so I enabled it. I think it basically skipped over post initialization and didn't initialize the other hard drives before Windows booted up, and just borked my setup.
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It didn't have anything to do with the bios. I wanted to see what MSI Fast Boot was all about, so I enabled it. I think it basically skipped over post initialization and didn't initialize the other hard drives before Windows booted up, and just borked my setup.

uh okay whatever
the bios contains the settings
Edit: maybe try and pull the plug remove battery, short cmos/bios jumper terminals for few seconds and work switches then let machine sit for a bit to fully try and clear the bios/cmos
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No warranty as it was a review sample. I was told this after I purchased it from someone and already had it installed in my case. When the primary bios went dead, I contacted MSI via phone and explained the situation because the serial number would not come up in their data base. After I contacted the seller is when he informed me it was a review sample. I then asked him to help me by talking to the MSI rep he had recieved the board from and I would pay to get it repaired. He refused stating he "didn't want to get in the middle of it and didn't want to get the rep in trouble" rolleyes.gif

I told him that would not happen, just explain the problem and what they quote you in repairs fees I will cover it. Not like he's losing any money on this. He still refused and MSI also refuses the repair the board stating again the board is not under warranty. He we go in this endless cycle that I ask for them to fix it and they keep refusing. The reason?: "The board is not under warranty". What kind of BS is that? So now I have a useless paperweight. I can understand if I deliberately killed the board by voltmodding it or running it under LN2, but I did no such thing aside from buying it.

Other companies are willing to do repairs if an item is out of warranty and charge a repair fee, MSI will not. So because of this issue I will not buy another review sample from anyone and 2nd, will not purchase anything with an MSI label on it. I'll chart this down on my list of brands I avoid at all costs.

Sounds like when you bought it, the seller did not advertise it as a review sample. This would be on the seller, if it was a review sample the item description should say so (since warranty is generally for retail purchased items).
I feel for ya though, that situation sucks...
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I am so close to just throwing this motherboard into the trash. I've had nothing but random problems it... (and yes I have the latest bios installed)

- Loss of signal during reboot a regular issue
- Multiple times now I've lost a storage hard drive from changing a setting in the bios and having disk check run at Windows boot and screw things up (MSI Fast Boot was the last culprit)
- Can't get a sound card to work
- 2-3 boot loops after changing settings sometimes
- Doesn't have proper offset voltage

When things finally work, I don't dare touch anything in the bios anymore. What a frustrating thing this board has been. I don't care how well my motherboard overclocks when it literally can't do anything else right. mad.gif

Haven't seen most of these issues, a boot loop after changing settings is normal, 3 loops after changing settings usually means a failed overclock.
The offset voltage thing is different from most boards, can't remember how far back in this thread but cl3p20 did have a post explaining how it works. I never looked at it since I have no use for offset voltage, for an overclockers board it works great as is.
    
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"- 2-3 boot loops after changing settings sometimes" < I still have this issue. The only way I've fixed it is loading the optimized defaults and entering in all my overclock settings. (IF YOU TOUCH ANYTHING IT STARTS TO DO 2-3 BOOT CYCLES. )

"- Loss of signal during reboot a regular issue"< Fixes after you default the bios and enter the overclock settings. If i fix the base clock from 100.5 to 100 it starts boot cycling again.

I can't really change any settings without it boot cycling. It restarts fine right now, But if i change one setting in my bios when i restart it turns on and off several times before restarting.
Edited by FeelKun - 1/16/13 at 5:46pm
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When changing a lot of the settings (voltage, memory settings, bclk change, etc.) it will shut down, self check at post, shut down again, then post normally.
It might actually do it more than once, I change settings all the time & am pretty much used to it & stopped paying attention. Really iffy memory settings can get a good boot loop going but normally won't post at the end for me if things are that far out.
    
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Hey sonda, I cannot update/revert to the official BIOS. everytime I try I freeze up. Any luck on your end? I'm on Bios 2 atm. How do I update Bios one from Bios 2?

A lot of boards do the boot loop after an overclock, don't fret. Even my sabertooth did it. My Gigabyte as well.
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When changing a lot of the settings (voltage, memory settings, bclk change, etc.) it will shut down, self check at post, shut down again, then post normally.
It might actually do it more than once, I change settings all the time & am pretty much used to it & stopped paying attention. Really iffy memory settings can get a good boot loop going but normally won't post at the end for me if things are that far out.

My boot cycles happens without changing the bios at all. All my settings are stable 36 hrs of prime95, few hours of OCCT, and memtestx86 ( 10passes). I revert to optimized defaults and re-enter my overclock settings, After that it boot cycles once or twice and it's finished. But... If i change the settings one more time could be anything like fixing the base clock bug from 100.5 to 100, The boot cycles appear again after each restart of windows. My computer shuts off completely for a few seconds and boots back up usually does this twice. ( Without changing anything) If it boot cycles too many times a error message appears "overclock was unstable, blah blah, f1,f2." which is false. Even at stock settings it will boot cycle after restarting or hitting the reset button. The only fix I have at the moment is entering the overclock settings right as I revert to the defaults. ( Anymore changes after that = boot cycles randomly)
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