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post #1681 of 3633
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Originally Posted by TheDoctor46 View Post

Got a bit of a problem here.

When board was stock my 3570k would idle at 1.6GHz with a voltage of about 0.9xx. When it was loaded it would ramp up to 3.8Ghz (I think) and the voltage would rise, this was probably using auto-voltage.

I had a fiddle with the core ratio, both on the main page and the 4 ratios under CPU features, and now whilst I can adjust the overclock and the CPU does downclock to 1.6GHz, the voltage remains at the 1.150v I have manually set in the BIOS and won't drop when the CPU downclocks.

I've got C-states enabled, C1E support enabled, EIST enabled, turbo etc.

Is this a bug? I also had problems with C-state settings not sticking sometimes, although they seem to have stuck now. Evidently something that claims it is active obviously isn't if the voltage won't drop. Is it anything to do with setting the power management options to "custom"

I'm try to overclock via the BIOS under the standard settings page, but I don't really want to carry on until I can make the voltage drop when the CPU isn't loaded.

Any other suggestions how to fix this?
post #1682 of 3633
If you manually set the voltage it won't drop during idle. Set it back on auto and under the hybrid digital power (or whatever that sub menu is called right above the voltage setting) use the llc setting(top one). I use 62% for a 4.5ghz of which gives me a load voltage of 1.232v.
 
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post #1683 of 3633
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No warranty as it was a review sample. I was told this after I purchased it from someone and already had it installed in my case. When the primary bios went dead, I contacted MSI via phone and explained the situation because the serial number would not come up in their data base. After I contacted the seller is when he informed me it was a review sample. I then asked him to help me by talking to the MSI rep he had recieved the board from and I would pay to get it repaired. He refused stating he "didn't want to get in the middle of it and didn't want to get the rep in trouble" rolleyes.gif

I told him that would not happen, just explain the problem and what they quote you in repairs fees I will cover it. Not like he's losing any money on this. He still refused and MSI also refuses the repair the board stating again the board is not under warranty. He we go in this endless cycle that I ask for them to fix it and they keep refusing. The reason?: "The board is not under warranty". What kind of BS is that? So now I have a useless paperweight. I can understand if I deliberately killed the board by voltmodding it or running it under LN2, but I did no such thing aside from buying it.

Other companies are willing to do repairs if an item is out of warranty and charge a repair fee, MSI will not. So because of this issue I will not buy another review sample from anyone and 2nd, will not purchase anything with an MSI label on it. I'll chart this down on my list of brands I avoid at all costs.

i'm so sorry 4 u... this story suc** a lot frown.gif
post #1684 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Nebulous View Post

No warranty as it was a review sample. I was told this after I purchased it from someone and already had it installed in my case. When the primary bios went dead, I contacted MSI via phone and explained the situation because the serial number would not come up in their data base. After I contacted the seller is when he informed me it was a review sample. I then asked him to help me by talking to the MSI rep he had recieved the board from and I would pay to get it repaired. He refused stating he "didn't want to get in the middle of it and didn't want to get the rep in trouble" rolleyes.gif

I told him that would not happen, just explain the problem and what they quote you in repairs fees I will cover it. Not like he's losing any money on this. He still refused and MSI also refuses the repair the board stating again the board is not under warranty. He we go in this endless cycle that I ask for them to fix it and they keep refusing. The reason?: "The board is not under warranty". What kind of BS is that? So now I have a useless paperweight. I can understand if I deliberately killed the board by voltmodding it or running it under LN2, but I did no such thing aside from buying it.

Other companies are willing to do repairs if an item is out of warranty and charge a repair fee, MSI will not. So because of this issue I will not buy another review sample from anyone and 2nd, will not purchase anything with an MSI label on it. I'll chart this down on my list of brands I avoid at all costs.

To bad the seller wouldn't have co operated!
That is a good reason to never buy a used motherboard period.
I have known people to buy used `boards and get them going, issues spring up.
They then want to rma and find that it is registered to original purchaser, mb company won't do rma some will but some won`t
post #1685 of 3633
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If you manually set the voltage it won't drop during idle. Set it back on auto and under the hybrid digital power (or whatever that sub menu is called right above the voltage setting) use the llc setting(top one). I use 62% for a 4.5ghz of which gives me a load voltage of 1.232v.

So there is definitely no way to have the voltage ramp up and down if you set it manually in the BIOS?

I don't really want to use auto voltage because I don't trust the motherboard to not feed the CPU some ridiculously high voltage as I start to overclock it.

That's a shame though. I don't know how I feel about having the processor under something like 1.3-1.4V all the time.... ;\
post #1686 of 3633
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So there is definitely no way to have the voltage ramp up and down if you set it manually in the BIOS?

I don't really want to use auto voltage because I don't trust the motherboard to not feed the CPU some ridiculously high voltage as I start to overclock it.

That's a shame though. I don't know how I feel about having the processor under something like 1.3-1.4V all the time.... ;\


Here you can see the settings



And here you can see that under load at 4.5ghz using the Auto vcore and just the vdroop offset control set the cpu is using 1.232v so I dont see anything to worry about. Ive been running it like this since I got the board just after it released and havent had any issues.
 
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I'm confused on why I can use the control center to overclock my i5 2500k to 4.5 but when I try to in bios... it doesn't work.

Anyone have an idea why or let me know what info I need to post.
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post #1688 of 3633
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So there is definitely no way to have the voltage ramp up and down if you set it manually in the BIOS?

I don't really want to use auto voltage because I don't trust the motherboard to not feed the CPU some ridiculously high voltage as I start to overclock it.

That's a shame though. I don't know how I feel about having the processor under something like 1.3-1.4V all the time.... ;\

Are Y using a 3570K or a 3770K processor?
If a 3570K.......Nagle is using a 3770k so will be completely different result and volts/settings
Edited by Tyreman - 1/17/13 at 6:45am
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Are Y using a 3570K or a 3770K processor?
If a 3570K.......Nagle is using a 3770k so will be completely different result and volts/settings

I'm using a 3570K and I know that the 3770K will generally clock better/lower voltage etc.

My chip seems fairly good however, or at least not below average. I can do 4.2 using 1.150V no problem. I suspect I can do more on the same voltage I just haven't pushed it yet to see how high it will go before I have to increase the voltage.

Nagle has 4.5 @ 1.23V I think. I suspect I might need a tiny bit more than that to get 4.5, but probably not much. I'm more concerned about the temperatures going through the roof as I up the voltage than hitting the voltage ceiling of 1.4-1.5V. Hopefully I can bring the temps down a bit by reducing PLL, which is still set at 1.8V.

I haven't really tried pushing the settings at all yet. I've just been playing around to familiarise myself with the BIOS etc.
post #1690 of 3633
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I'm using a 3570K and I know that the 3770K will generally clock better/lower voltage etc.

My chip seems fairly good however, or at least not below average. I can do 4.2 using 1.150V no problem. I suspect I can do more on the same voltage I just haven't pushed it yet to see how high it will go before I have to increase the voltage.

Nagle has 4.5 @ 1.23V I think. I suspect I might need a tiny bit more than that to get 4.5, but probably not much. I'm more concerned about the temperatures going through the roof as I up the voltage than hitting the voltage ceiling of 1.4-1.5V. Hopefully I can bring the temps down a bit by reducing PLL, which is still set at 1.8V.

I haven't really tried pushing the settings at all yet. I've just been playing around to familiarise myself with the BIOS etc.

Just test it out with a lower vdroop offset at first if your worried, run cpu-z and your temp monitoring software of choice while running some prime95 or ibt. The highest Ive seen my voltage hit since Ive been using these settings is 1.24 which I'm not the least bit concerned about.
 
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