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Hi! First post, build and etc... I am a noob and should be treated as such but pretty much I'll be building and setting up tonight.
I will be getting the MPower and 4x4gb Samsung ram sticks. I got them for their overclocking ability, mostly tightening the timings to near (if not less than) 9-9-9-24 @1600 with less voltage than 1.5v.
So after reading that there seems to be an issue with overclocking the Samsung ram on this mobo, what do you believe is the issue? Could it be a specific batch or maybe needing a bios update?
Has anyone been able to get past stock settings, whether it be timings or speed, with the samsungs?
If not any advice from someone with overclocking them? I read on some review of the samsungs that for tightening the timings you had to fiddle with the tRCL? I'll try to find the link and mess with my ram after everything is installed/updated.
Edit: Found the link.
http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/6.html
Has anyone tried this with this mobo?

I read earlier in this thread that people have tried these on this mobo and couldn't get past 1600 Mhz because their(Samsung's) XMP file is missing from the Bios. I haven't seen anything regarding timing and voltage but you should try running these at 1600 9-9-9-24 1.35V. My pair of Samsung runs 1866 9-9-9-24 1.35V but that's on my ASUS board that recognizes them.
Edited by sherlock - 10/1/12 at 11:21am
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hmm... Ok, so im running at stock cpu speed but my ram at 2400, for the 4ghz thread i hit my oc genie button to get the cpuz validation link, then when looking at the link my memory speed dropped to 2133 speed... so with oc genie pressed i dove into the bios to see if could change the mem speed back to 2400 WITH oc genie enabled... it wouldn't let me, in bios my ram speed was listed as 2400 but current speed was 2133~ now this was on xmp profile 1, maybe i'll try profile 2 but i dont think that will change anything...
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I'll try anything that's not insane, I'm just wondering where the issue lays.
I know what the ram is capable of, that has been proven.

But I'm wondering if the issue is...
A. Bad Batch (mobo)
B. Compatibility Issue with size (since it's shrunk/smaller than average ram)
C. Compatibility Issue with voltage
D. Human Error
E. A combination

Because I thought that ram is ram, only thing that affects it's performance is CPU (controller) and motherboard (bus).
post #204 of 3634
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Originally Posted by NadaJohna View Post

I'll try anything that's not insane, I'm just wondering where the issue lays.
I know what the ram is capable of, that has been proven.
But I'm wondering if the issue is...
A. Bad Batch (mobo)
B. Compatibility Issue with size (since it's shrunk/smaller than average ram)
C. Compatibility Issue with voltage
D. Human Error
E. A combination
Because I thought that ram is ram, only thing that affects it's performance is CPU (controller) and motherboard (bus).

It is most likely a mobo issue, the Gigabyte Z77 boards use to be unable to OC the Samsung Ram and was fixed with a Bios update.

Your two options are:1. return the ram for refund and buy another brand. 2. Wait for the Bios update that fixes this issue. You could also go to the MSI manufacture forum to discuss this.
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hmm... Ok, so im running at stock cpu speed but my ram at 2400, for the 4ghz thread i hit my oc genie button to get the cpuz validation link, then when looking at the link my memory speed dropped to 2133 speed... so with oc genie pressed i dove into the bios to see if could change the mem speed back to 2400 WITH oc genie enabled... it wouldn't let me, in bios my ram speed was listed as 2400 but current speed was 2133~ now this was on xmp profile 1, maybe i'll try profile 2 but i dont think that will change anything...

The OC Genie overclocks the whole system and not just the cpu or memory - its all or nothing, if you want more control for your individual components (cpu/mem/etc) then manually setting things up is best. Is your memory 2133 that you pushed to 2400 or 2400 out of the box?
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OK. Don't mean to be self-serving but is it possible that llamaboiz is up against the mem speed rates I questioned above.

I see a couple of 'soft' documentation issues in the Memory Spec section of the Mpower manual.
1. The asterisks I referred to above.
2. The spec lists 2 speed strings, one of which requires 22nm cpu (Ivy, right?). And they are different so I assume they are memory ID strings to match in BIOS.

I'm just scratchin' my head but llamaboiz is banging his against a wall.

I didn't get any answers above so I don't know whether I am even further out in Left Field now.
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its all or nothing, if you want more control for your individual components (cpu/mem/etc) then manually setting things up is best

yea i know~ just seeing if i could do things a lazier way tongue.gif
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Is your memory 2133 that you pushed to 2400 or 2400 out of the box?

2400
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Really though, I'm still having this issue despite all of my attempts to fix it. Settings in the bios are being detected by Windows, but the processor isn't actually going up to that frequency. Windows reads 4.3ghz, bios has x43 multi, actual core multi ends up being x35 every time.

What magical setting am I missing here? I can't even begin to overclock on this board because I cannot figure out what options in the bios are preventing it.
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Disable OC Genie Button Operation and maybe update the BIOS.
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Disable OC Genie Button Operation and maybe update the BIOS.

A few days ago I was doing some high over clocks around 5.2GHZ and my BIOS got a little corrupted. To fix it I reflashed the BIOS and all over clocking control came back.
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