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I'm just scratchin' my head but llamaboiz is banging his against a wall....

Well i kinda figured OC Genie values were a SET thing, but i also thought that it could be changed and if you mess up you could reset to genie values, kinda like the stock values can be changed... that way i could just work the ram cuz the cpu part is done~ as i stand now my ram is 2400 but cpu is stock...

BUT~

Lets be totally honest here~ in the real world lowering the latency and speeding up the ram a bit is only some thing you'll be able to 'see' in a benchmark score, you wont be able to tell by clicking on firefox to look at facebook. Even putting my 3770k at 4.2 pales in comparison to the speed you get by adding a SSD... of course assuming everyone has a 3770k/ssd/fast ram then yes its back to the good ole OC anthem of 'removal of bottlenecks'... just have to decide how much tweaking you wanna do and for what purpose, benchmark scores or to just have a wicked fast computer to look at facebook tongue.gif
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post #212 of 3634
So my first build went well, just trying to finish drivers before bed. Samsung RAM was at spec in bios, but I do need to check CPU-Z first. Once everything is settled/after school and work I'll see if I can squeeze some tighter timings out.
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Agreed llamaboiz.

I think much of the fun and interest comes from exactly what is happening here on the forums. Our type likes puzzles and prizes, be they input from others or the right numbers flashing up in CPUZ. I pick at specs and try to sort out the "best" way to do things but I also try to remember that the journey is a major part of the rush so I shouldn't rush through it. LOL

I am just learning that the Memory Stick / CPU 'dance' requires a lot of information exchange between the support chipset and memory ID logic. The BIOS has got to be right in the middle of that, acting partially, as a translator / negotiator.

IF WE AIN'T PUSHIN' WE AIN"T MOVIN'!!!
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Curious, are more people having this issue?

Probably. MVP is big complaint on many Z77 chipset mother boards.

I have been going back and forth via email with MSI tech support trying to get it fixed and it is still borked. I think there are some bad registry problems causing bad ju ju.
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E7751IMS.H42 → E7751IMS.H43

Changelog:
- Fix WIN7 64 bit OS S4 resume show error message issue.
- Update Intel ME 8.1.1318.
- Fix System cannot Enter windows 7 most of the time and will just show the message no bootable device found.


http://www.mediafire.com/?nyzhq5mnb7ixze5
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OK. Don't mean to be self-serving but is it possible that llamaboiz is up against the mem speed rates I questioned above.
I see a couple of 'soft' documentation issues in the Memory Spec section of the Mpower manual.
1. The asterisks I referred to above.
2. The spec lists 2 speed strings, one of which requires 22nm cpu (Ivy, right?). And they are different so I assume they are memory ID strings to match in BIOS.
I'm just scratchin' my head but llamaboiz is banging his against a wall.
I didn't get any answers above so I don't know whether I am even further out in Left Field now.
SB and IB have different designs/ memory controllers - thus with SB you are only going to be able to select 2133 and go up on the bclk to increase. IB has more options above 2133 that can't be used with a SB cpu. In this regard you are correct
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Really though, I'm still having this issue despite all of my attempts to fix it. Settings in the bios are being detected by Windows, but the processor isn't actually going up to that frequency. Windows reads 4.3ghz, bios has x43 multi, actual core multi ends up being x35 every time.
What magical setting am I missing here? I can't even begin to overclock on this board because I cannot figure out what options in the bios are preventing it.
can you please take screen shots inside bios of all sections within OC ... Also - did you change anything in CPU features - if you changed CPU Power technology to anything other than "Custom" in the CPU Features section then you could also run into this issue. Also if you are using Realtemp or a similar program I have seen issues like this as well.
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Probably. MVP is big complaint on many Z77 chipset mother boards.
I have been going back and forth via email with MSI tech support trying to get it fixed and it is still borked. I think there are some bad registry problems causing bad ju ju.

MVP - I never use it as its a software solution that I am not too keen on, as it is faux performance. It is not real performance you are gaining, its the software's ability to create the smoothness that people like. even though you may run a benchmark that says its a lot higher - its because of the software making/faking it. The scores are never going to be legit at Futuremark because of this.
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SB and IB have different designs/ memory controllers - thus with SB you are only going to be able to select 2133 and go up on the bclk to increase. IB has more options above 2133 that can't be used with a SB cpu. In this regard you are correct
can you please take screen shots inside bios of all sections within OC ... Also - did you change anything in CPU features - if you changed CPU Power technology to anything other than "Custom" in the CPU Features section then you could also run into this issue. Also if you are using Realtemp or a similar program I have seen issues like this as well.
MVP - I never use it as its a software solution that I am not too keen on, as it is faux performance. It is not real performance you are gaining, its the software's ability to create the smoothness that people like. even though you may run a benchmark that says its a lot higher - its because of the software making/faking it. The scores are never going to be legit at Futuremark because of this.

It's not faked performance. When mine worked for 3 days I noticed smoother game play and increased FPS in benchmarks. It's a hardware/software boost that works well when it works.

Just buggy.

I hope MSI fixes it. I hate buying stuff that is broke.
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E7751IMS.H42 → E7751IMS.H43
Changelog:
- Fix WIN7 64 bit OS S4 resume show error message issue.
- Update Intel ME 8.1.1318.
- Fix System cannot Enter windows 7 most of the time and will just show the message no bootable device found.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nyzhq5mnb7ixze5

Thanks. Going to install it right now.
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It's not faked performance. When mine worked for 3 days I noticed smoother game play and increased FPS in benchmarks. It's a hardware/software boost that works well when it works.
Just buggy.
I hope MSI fixes it. I hate buying stuff that is broke.

As to what I stated earlier and you pointed out as well, please see the link

Lucid MVP Lowdown Link
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As Lucid indicates in interviews, the boost in FPS is not a real increase in FPS
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