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17.7 seems to be, at least for me, a wonky BIOS. I first had the opportunity to try the 17.7 beta and that pooped my BIOS A chip..its still functional but I can't flash to an older BIOS. I used BIOS B which I had updated to 16, and all was well. then the official 17.7 came out, I flashed BIOS B and now I have 2 BIOS chips that refuse to flash back to an older BIOS. Heck I can't even flash it with the same BIOS , it just freezes.

I called MSI and the person I spoke to seemed, how should I put this..a bit short with me. He told me" if everything worked fine why would you flash the BIOS..now you have to RMA it." that statement was followed by an incredulous sigh as though I had wasted his time. So I thought to myself Wait! If there wasn't a problem with the motherboard and it didn't need to be flashed..why did you put out an updated BIOS? I was sort of taken a back with his response as I fancy myself as a person that likes to tinker with my PC and try and maximize performance. If, in the description, there is even a mention of a performance increase or a "fix" why wouldn't I flash my BIOS?

So yes Cheaptrick, I am experiencing issues with 17.7 BIOS. Don't tell MSI you are having issues because they will make you feel like an idiot for flashing your BIOS....If this board wasn't kick ass I would pull it out of my case right now and swear off anything MSI. I've already returned one Mpower due to BIOS issues and the first few posts of this thread was riddled with MPower BIOS issues not only did I have mobo issues but I've also owned an MSI GTX 670 PE/OC which also had BIOS issues... and their customer service has the nerve to say that my BIOS issues are my fault? I have flashed many motherboards and never encountered BIOS chip corruption... Maybe they should look at their BIOS chips.

* my mention of BIOS 16 is actually 17.6*

In my personal opinion, if you can get past MSIs BIOS design, which is daunting to navigate, and their BIOS chip, which seems to be easily corrupted, MSI has a great product in the Z77 MPower. I've said it once and I'll say it again, once you've tamed the BIOS overclocking is a breeze. No other Z77 board i've owned has allowed me to OC my 3570k to 4.5 with only 1.245v. Even with that being said, I am going to save up and get a new motherboard.i am peeved that both BIOS on my board are broken and I am peeved at MSI customer service.
Edited by Blatsz32 - 3/2/13 at 8:52am
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In my personal opinion, if you can get past MSIs BIOS design, which is daunting to navigate, and their BIOS chip, which seems to be easily corrupted, MSI has a great product in the Z77 MPower. I've said it once and I'll say it again, once you've tamed the BIOS overclocking is a breeze. No other Z77 board i've owned has allowed me to OC my 3570k to 4.5 with only 1.245v. Even with that being said, I am going to save up and get a new motherboard.i am peeved that both BIOS on my board are broken and I am peeved at MSI customer service.

Sad to hear it, so still will use this board for long? I have known there are some users who had dead bios, ended up with going for another board. So, can't we flash bios as we like?
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Blatsz32:
Funny,i had a new motherboard, just a few hours old, and gues what:
I had problems with bios a : blackscreen, no post at all!
After a cmos clear like the manuall told me: both bios a-b corrupt!

And i even did not flash anything.

I did rma the board to the store,and i did get a new one instantly, this one is working fine.
I am scared to flash because i read more stories like you, and even me without flash anything in my case.

Srry for not that great english, i am dutch redface.gif

I also have the idea this bios is verry sensitive to be going corrupt.
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In this topic you can find a tool that hasn't failed a flash yet.
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.new;topicseen#new

I used it once to update to a beta bios which i am still running today, you can give it a try if you really want to flash the bios.

B.t.w: I am Dutch too, bad English isn't very typical for Dutch people though wink.giftongue.gif
post #2215 of 3634
Fear not my Dutch brothers, I judge you not. I to am of Dutch heritage.

I will give that tool a try. thank you for the link. I am a bit disappointing in MSIs choice in BIOS coding. I actually should have thought to myself - " why does this manufacturer need a BIOS switch?".
Hopefully they iron this out in their future boards. I would like to hear what MSIAlex has to say about the issues. My impression after talking to the service rep was that he had heard a ton of complaints, had to answer tons of questions, and had to say "RMA" many times, due to BIOS issues. Oh well I'll deal with it.

Again thanks for the link Erik
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Sad to hear it, so still will use this board for long? I have known there are some users who had dead bios, ended up with going for another board. So, can't we flash bios as we like?

According to the MSI rep I spoke to the answer to your question about flashing BIOS "as we like" is no. I wish i could express the sigh he emitted in writing as he said this " Do not flash BIOs if everything works.".
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post #2216 of 3634
I hear about all you guys having problems with your board and it makes me wonder why I'm not having these problems. I bought mine back in December which is right about the time they became available. I'm also running the most up to date bios. Makes me wonder.
post #2217 of 3634

**Just FYI : 

 

making a DOS bootable USB with pendrive, and using 'FPT -F' command to flash new BIOS file works great ! I think the problem is in using the Mflash utility for certain BIOS updates.. it does not seem to overwrite all of the BIOS sectors..

 

 As well - each time I have flashed BIOS, I fully unplug and remove CMOS battery. Wait a few.. plug all back in, reset CMOS [again just for GP].. then boot.

 

^^^ If I do NOT remove CMOS batt and power + clear CMOS again, I consistently have issues with 'boot hang'.. doing the above has corrected pretty much every issue I have encountered when changing BIOS on this board.

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Originally Posted by Erik1974 View Post

In this topic you can find a tool that hasn't failed a flash yet.
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108079.new;topicseen#new

I used it once to update to a beta bios which i am still running today, you can give it a try if you really want to flash the bios.

B.t.w: I am Dutch too, bad English isn't very typical for Dutch people though wink.giftongue.gif
Yup I always update BIOS wiht MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool and never crash smile.gif from P67A-GD55, P67A-GD80, Z77A-GD65 & Z77A-GD80 ... I never try Mpower yet.
If you guys have problem just ask Svet in there or make a thread then others will help you.
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Hello

I have a small question!

is it safe to use an adapter from 2 molex to 6pin pci-e to use it for additional power video cards? I mean the 6-pin connector on the motherboard smile.gif

I have a few stability issues in Crysis 3 with the 2 ASUS GTX 560 TOP
Edited by ShadyGaby - 3/2/13 at 12:55pm
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yes that is fine.. there wont be much difference, and it will be better than having no additional voltage ;)

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