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 I get 9C from moving bclk with chipset voltage too low.. try moving chipset voltage to 1.066v and see if that corrects the POST issue.

Thanks for the reply. I had just put my chip in after delidding. It doesn't like one of my usb components.
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Hi everyone. I have a quick question to ask.

I have an Intel 520 180gb SSD plugged into the SATA III port with a 6 GB/S capable SATA III wire. My read speeds are okay, however my write speeds are about 50-60% of normal (for the 512k, 4k, and 4k QD32). I was wondering if there was any driver update or fix for this Mobo that will help. I also have the latest firmware on the SSD.
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post #2323 of 3633
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Ok guys I need some help badly!!!

I finally got the nerve up to overclock on this board and I really don't think i've done it correctly.

here's the situation:

trying to run between a 4.0 and 4.2 ghz clock. I want to stay at or barely above stock voltage ( maybe even under volt if I can). My cooling is the NH-d14 (hence I don't want to go much higher for a 24/7 overclock

ISSUES:

I followed nagles and a few others setting advice on here and got the rig up to 4.2 but its got weird issues I want yall to help me with/ know what to do because I'm new to it and don't understand what i'm doing wrong

1. The ram voltage displays as 1.648 ?? in bios (or something like that) my ram is only 1.5 volt. So is this safe?

2. My clock speeds once booted as seen through task manager fluctuates from 4+ down to maybe below 3 ghz when at idle, and when running prime95 ive never seen it show higher than 4.13 ghz (when set to 4.2 in bios)

3. the voltage fluctuates wildly.....from like .992 to 1.260 V. How do I stop this? I want to set my voltage permanent. does this board not allow this?

-ive tried vdroop on 100% and it did nothing to stop it

-I want to set the volts in the bios but it wont let me (excpet within the oc genie menu) problem is how do you apply the oc genie settings? you can do it in os, but thats bad. Do i set my oc genie settings and then open the case up while on and hit 0c genie button? or boot off and hit the button? I just really don't get how these settings are applied even though i set them


So please take a look at the pics below of my settings and let me know what im doing wrong because i relaly dont get what things are being applied when i leave bios or how to fix my issues. I've read almost every post in this thread but still obviously don't understand.










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I don't feel safe running the ram at high volts, or cpu voltage fluctuating so much, and i want the cpu to be at 4.2 constant and not throttle. just trying to set a decent oc for 24/7 with air cooling i have and not run my chip into the ground. Please help if you have any firm insight on what i need to do, I promise i will be very appreciative with the rep button! and I apologize for sounding like such a noob but the settings on this board confuse me as compared to what ive read about other brands bios

I can try and help as much as possible but we can tackle a few things at a time. Your ram change the setting to "XMP PROFILE" so that it never changes (thats what I did). Also 1.64v isn't too bad but it is higher than stock you would just need to watch and see if you get any errors from PRIME95 or other testing software. As far as the CPU CORE VOLTAGE in the OC SETTINGS tab in bios you need to adjust it from "AUTO" to what ever you want it too. As long as its on AUTO it will fluctuate. The way you do this is either by pressing + on your keyboard or actually typing in the numbers for example 1.2 or hitting + multiple times till you get to your desired voltage setting. As far as the CPU clock fluctuating from 4GHZ to 3GHZ....the only thing i can think of is if you changed the "PACKAGE C STATE LIMITS". My best advice is to go into bios and set EVERYTHING to default. Then adjust the core clock on the OC Settings (where it says "ADJUST CPU RATIO on the top) then the CPU CORE VOLTAGE. change dram to "XMP PROFILE" turn OFF INTEL C STATE and C1E SUPPORT. You can leave VDROOP on AUTO but I currently have it at 100%.

Best thing to do from here on out is find out how much volts your need to run 4.2Ghz. I started at 1.2 in bios...then worked my way down and im currently at 1.18v in bios stable. If anyone else would like to add anything or correct me by all means do so! Hope I helped, and Good LUCK!
Edited by Tremulant - 3/16/13 at 12:32pm
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OOPS I mean i was at 1.2 and went to 1.18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT DO 1.8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thank you for telling me how to change the auto!!! lol

Ok so i went and change the volts to 1.12 V with 100% offset on. And also the multiplier to 42. Ran prime for a little bit and now i am seeing something really wierd



the idle temps don't drop anything below what stock was for me ( like 37 - 40 C) and in idle the cpu frequency shown in task manager is from 4.2 - 4.5 (fluctuating) and then when prime is running my temps jump to mid 60's C but the frequency in prime as you can see in the picture shows it as 5GHZ!!??? as seen above

is the windows 8 task manager just completely off its rocker or what lol? bc cpu-z and core temp are showing it as 4.2. So i don't know which to believe? also if the volts are at 1.12 with 100% offset is idle at 1.104 and load at 1.096-1.104 (fluctuating) seem good or correct? (seems way better than the fluctuations yesterday but still being such a low overclock I'd think that it would hold almost steady at the setting i give it.

Any further help appreciated!!! thumb.gif
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Hi guys,

Im trying to overclock 3570k on z77 mpower, and I have a little problem. When I set 4.8GHZ and 1.28V, it lasts for 2-3 hours in prime. So lets add some more voltage to get it more stable right ? So just for fun a put in 1.35V and it throws BSOD after few seconds in prime. So I put 1.4V and it throws bsod immediately I click on "ok" to begin the blend test. Whats up with that ?
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Hi guys,

Im trying to overclock 3570k on z77 mpower, and I have a little problem. When I set 4.8GHZ and 1.28V, it lasts for 2-3 hours in prime. So lets add some more voltage to get it more stable right ? So just for fun a put in 1.35V and it throws BSOD after few seconds in prime. So I put 1.4V and it throws bsod immediately I click on "ok" to begin the blend test. Whats up with that ?

1.28 up to 1.35 is a pretty hefty jump from what ive read (someone correct me if im wrong) you can tell that im a noob from my last few posts as im trying to currently tune in a 4.2 overclock. But i think you might be blue screen so quick because too many volts?

why do you want to up the volts = much more heat that quickly instead of like say bumping to 1.3 or 1.29? going that high i assume you have the offset at 100% to keep it as close to your input as possible?
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1.28 up to 1.35 is a pretty hefty jump from what ive read (someone correct me if im wrong) you can tell that im a noob from my last few posts as im trying to currently tune in a 4.2 overclock. But i think you might be blue screen so quick because too many volts?

why do you want to up the volts = much more heat that quickly instead of like say bumping to 1.3 or 1.29? going that high i assume you have the offset at 100% to keep it as close to your input as possible?

I dont want to up the volts that much and of course I will up the voltage to 1.29 or 1.3, but Ive discovered this by chance when I was trying if it will boot 5GHZ with 1.4, as some people have 1.4-1.5xV for 5GHZ and they are fine, in sense of not bsoding so I just dont know why I have bsod when I set 1.4, it should be fine. This behavior is like the more voltage I add, the sooner it throws bsod, and 1.4V is not so huge. Could I really have bsod because too many volts ?

PS: 1.28V means 2 hours 45 minutes in prime. 1.3V means 2 hours and 5-10 minutes in prime. Thats pretty weird, it seems that for 4.8GHZ, more voltage doesnt actually help with stability, it makes it less stable
Edited by Icydead - 3/16/13 at 2:16pm
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thank you for telling me how to change the auto!!! lol

Ok so i went and change the volts to 1.12 V with 100% offset on. And also the multiplier to 42. Ran prime for a little bit and now i am seeing something really wierd



the idle temps don't drop anything below what stock was for me ( like 37 - 40 C) and in idle the cpu frequency shown in task manager is from 4.2 - 4.5 (fluctuating) and then when prime is running my temps jump to mid 60's C but the frequency in prime as you can see in the picture shows it as 5GHZ!!??? as seen above

is the windows 8 task manager just completely off its rocker or what lol? bc cpu-z and core temp are showing it as 4.2. So i don't know which to believe? also if the volts are at 1.12 with 100% offset is idle at 1.104 and load at 1.096-1.104 (fluctuating) seem good or correct? (seems way better than the fluctuations yesterday but still being such a low overclock I'd think that it would hold almost steady at the setting i give it.

Any further help appreciated!!! thumb.gif

You're very welcome! Well your idle temps aren't going to go very low because you're on a fixed voltage. I idle at about 34-36 with the 212 EVO at 1.18v when I had voltage on auto it would dip down to .9ish and i would idle at 29-30. It seems like Ivy Bridge CPUs are VERY VERY VERY sensitive to voltage. (I came from an AMD CPU so this is all fairly new to me as well). As far as Windows...i use Windows 7...I wouldn't trust what windows says about temps. I use a program called "REAL TEMP" very low profile I think i got it on GURU3D or something. CPU-Z is the same for me. I have fixed 1.18v in bios and in CPU-Z it shows 1.168v-1.176v then under load it stables out but below 1.18. (that I believe is known as the "VDROOP") I've never gotten it to do EXACTLY what I have in bios. About the CPU clock I usually go by what it says in CPU-Z mine is currently at 4222 (but also fluctuates slightly 4221.77-4222.21) The fact that you can run 4.2GHZ at 1.12 i think is pretty good. I hope mine goes pretty low as well but I have more testing to do. Hope this clears some stuff up.
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I dont want to up the volts that much and of course I will up the voltage to 1.29 or 1.3, but Ive discovered this by chance when I was trying if it will boot 5GHZ with 1.4, as some people have 1.4-1.5xV for 5GHZ and they are fine, in sense of not bsoding so I just dont know why I have bsod when I set 1.4, it should be fine. This behavior is like the more voltage I add, the sooner it throws bsod, and 1.4V is not so huge. Could I really have bsod because too many volts ?

PS: 1.28V means 2 hours 45 minutes in prime. 1.3V means 2 hours and 5-10 minutes in prime. Thats pretty weird, it seems that for 4.8GHZ, more voltage doesnt actually help with stability, it makes it less stable

well it might be a "silicon lottery" type thing where you just can't push past 4.8 or get it stable there....but i really can't speculate on that although i think 4.6 is almost a sure thing which you've obviously already tried and secured. i think bsod is a possibility for anything thats outside operational spec ( overclocking specs are different for each chip so its conceivable that 1.4 v may just be too much for that chip to work at all hence blue screen)

have you tried lower volts than 1.28? ( im sure you have) but it might be an issue of backing it off just ever so slightly to like 1.278-1.275 and that be enough to keep the chip running but not hit that over the top threshold and give bsod

one thing i've read places is set you ram pretty low for overclocking initially. like if you have 1866 ram run it at 1600 and get your 4.8 cpu stable 100% then up your ram to its rated speeds and check again/ tweak it into all being stable. the 4.8 with volts you have may be stable but ram might be adding a instability for now that your not gonna catch
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