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it is somewhat ironic

all of the Big Bang series have actually been MSIs most solid boards though.

Perhaps low end amd msi boards deserve that name.
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Hello everybody !
I have a "weird" issue with my board and can't seem to find what is causing it, so a little help would be appreciated smile.gif

When I shutdown windows my usb-devices (mouse, external drive, headset) are still being powered.
I thought it was the EuP setting that needed to be turned on in BIOS but that did not change anything, any idea ?

That excepted it's a great board and I'm really happy with my new rig smile.gif

Edit: Found it ! It seems setting the wake-up event to OS mode solved this 'issue'.
Edited by twm.7 - 10/8/12 at 11:44pm
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post #293 of 3634
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 No not phase control... rather the clipping rate of the phases. 

MSI has a feature that implements a higher Switching Phase Freq, once you set the droop options in the BIOS.. but something a bit more flexible.. with at least 3x different frequency rates would be nice.. not only for Extreme users, but also for daily users that are concerned with power savings.. lowering the Phase Freq, will drop power consumption and Mosfet/power phase heat output.

Clipping rate? Sorry I am a noob......

 

 

 

Quote: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6166030&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F6158725%2F6165780%2F06166030.pdf%3Farnumber%3D6166030
Compared with the widely used constant switching frequency PWM method, variable switching frequency PWM can benefit more because of the extra freedom. Based on the analytical expression of current ripple of three-phase converter discussed in “Study of Analytical Current Ripple of Three-Phase PWM Converter” in APEC 2012, variable switching frequency PWM (VSFPWM) methods are proposed to satisfy different ripple requirements. Two methods are discussed in this paper. The first method (VSFPWM1) is designed to arrange the current ripple peak value within a certain value, and can reduce the equivalent switching frequency and EMI noise; the second method (VSFPWM2) is designed to keep ripple current RMS value constant and reduce the EMI noise. Simulation and experimental results show that variable switching frequency control could improve the performance.

 

 Basically - adjusting the rate at which the mosfets clip voltage; allows for better droop control on your vcore circuit. As well - adjusting the frequency of the phases can allow for more/less EMI and heat output.

 

*For daily users a Sw.Freq at the low end of the scale would be fine [200-350khz].. low heat output but still plenty of current potential and low EMI.

**For extreme users a Sw.Freq at the high end of the scale is needed [+400khz].. much higher heat output from the mosfets.. very tight vcore droop margin. Higher EMI can be detrimental though.. this is why its important to be able to manually tune this setting.

 

 On my ROG boards, I would run ~430khz for Sw.Freq when pushing CPU's past 5.5ghz.

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What memory do you guys think I should get for my MSI MPOWER board - Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum Series or AVEXIR MSI Z77 MPOWER Optimized?
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What memory do you guys think I should get for my MSI MPOWER board - Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum Series or AVEXIR MSI Z77 MPOWER Optimized?

The choice is up to you!

Depending on how good your CPU imc is bro. Both the Corsair and Avexir can hit high speeds. The corsair will do it at tiny bit faster timings, but not worth the extra cash.

corsair could do 2600mhz 9-12-12 where the avexir would do 2600 10-13-12. But i don't know what speeds you plan on running

I got some avexirs myself and they look smashingggg. You won't go wrong with em. And the theme is a bonus
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CPU will be an I7 3770k, planing on running at 4.8ghz on water cooling. RAM will be 4 x 4GB sticks @ 1600mhz and will be OC'ed to what ever there capable of.
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What memory do you guys think I should get for my MSI MPOWER board - Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum Series or AVEXIR MSI Z77 MPOWER Optimized?
Not sure if it helps much, but I did a scout around the web of sticks that have been used with the MPower, all work at spec, I'll keep adding to the list if and when I see more people using different sticks.

All the Avexir sticks should work with this board, I should expect, regardless if they are the specific MPower ones, or not.

G.Skill RipjawsZ 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2400C10D-8GZH)
G.Skill RipJawsZ 32GB (8x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9Q2-32GBZL)
G.Skill TridentX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2400C10D-8GTX)
G.Skill TridentX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2666C11D-8GTX)
Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3- 17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX2133C11D3K4/16GX)
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-2666C10 Dual Channel Kit (CMD16GX3M4A2666C10)
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Not sure if it helps much, but I did a scout around the web of sticks that have been used with the MPower, all work at spec, I'll keep adding to the list if and when I see more people using different sticks.
All the Avexir sticks should work with this board, I should expect, regardless if they are the specific MPower ones, or not.
G.Skill RipjawsZ 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2400C10D-8GZH)
G.Skill RipJawsZ 32GB (8x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Quad Channel Kit (F3-12800CL9Q2-32GBZL)
G.Skill TridentX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2400C10D-8GTX)
G.Skill TridentX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-2666C11D-8GTX)
Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3- 17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX2133C11D3K4/16GX)
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-2666C10 Dual Channel Kit (CMD16GX3M4A2666C10)
You can add the Corsair Dominator Platinum 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-12800C8 as well.
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Also add as these are working fine:
G.SKILL Trident X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) F3-2400C10Q-32GTX Quad Channel kit
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I wasn't aware that this board supported quad memory? I have this board on lock down for my next build! Granted it's about 7 to 9 months out.I am a newegg junkie and have my wish list set up. The more I dig into this site the more I find! as far as ram is concerned, I have been looking for anyone using MSI Z77 MPOWER Optimized DDR3 in general. They say it is optimized, whatever that means?. Was looking for some hard data! Is ram just ram?
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