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Now my other issue is the bios. Nothing left to do but RMA the board. Not even 1 week and I'm already having doubts about my decision. I have never encountered issues like this ever.

I'm in the same boat. In the mean time I grabbed an Asus Sabertooth... once the replacement MPower arrives I'll give it another chance but yeah... I have the same feeling :\

Unfortunately the little wifi module wasn't my only problem, it just seems it was the first. Oh well, it's out of my control now, just looking forward to the replacement. The MSI bios was easier (or I thought so) to navigate and play with, much more straightforward then the Sabertooth's interface...that little Go-to-BIOS button was so darned convenient too :|
    
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Dang, I sure hate to hear all these horror stories. I know that there are a bunch of guys that have had good results, but for the unlucky ones, these BIOS related problems, whether memory compatibility or file corruptions, are certainly significant.
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The following have reported having a corrupted BIOS file:

Post # 371 - BIOS A by nagle3092
Post # 446 - BIOS B by Atom03
Post # 692 - BIOS A by Nebulous (I pointed him to this thread when he told me about his ram problem)
Post # 694 - BIOS A by PCWargamer

When Neb told me it had happened to him, I thought it to be an isolated and unique case. He was having problems running those Samsung modules (which I sent him and had them previously at 2133 with 9-10-10-30 1T @ 1.575v) so I came looking thru this thread for possible solutions to the ram issue. As I was reading the thread I came across those other posts of guys having problems with corrupted BIOS.

Is it just me, or does this appear to be a higher than expected number of corrupted BIOS files?

I was running version 17.3 and it ran fine out of the box.

I was able to do some OC testing and noted lower vcore for simular OCs compared to my Z68 board it was to replace. It was even able to do some 5GHz superPis and some 4.9GHz Cinebench, as well as some other benches at 4.9-5.1GHz. Not bad. Highest OC the board was able to do with my particular 3770K was 5.2GHz, around 52MHz lower than the other board's max, but it was still a new board and I think it would have done up to that 5.252GHz in time, and maybe even more (at least was hoping so!).

So I liked the board very much. It looks just great. Lots of good features for the price, and I saw that it was running well for OCing. But it was in the adjusting of the BIOS and a reboot where it just started to cycle with the error 72 - Ram error.

So I powered down, hit the clear CMOS button. When that did not work I removed the CMOS battery to further clear BIOS. When that did not work I verified "b" BIOS worked fine and then tried to flash the "a" BIOS using the USB stick and instructions from the MSI site (and their tool). No good. I was able to flash the "b" BIOS up to the latest BIOS using that method, so I know it works fine. But "a" BIOS was toast even after multiple attempts to fix it.

Shame too as I really like this board! Still do. But too many issus I have never had to deal with on any other board. And too soon. I hope you guys find out a fix for this so that others can enjoy this board as it looks like a great OC'er for the short time I was playing with it. And I would still consider it for a new build if these issues do get resolved over time.
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Anyone know if you can turn off the avexir lights on the ram? Or customize the sequence in which they flash? Thanks in advance smile.gif
post #705 of 3634
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The following have reported having a corrupted BIOS file:
Post # 371 - BIOS A by nagle3092
Post # 446 - BIOS B by Atom03
Post # 692 - BIOS A by Nebulous (I pointed him to this thread when he told me about his ram problem)
Post # 694 - BIOS A by PCWargamer
When Neb told me it had happened to him, I thought it to be an isolated and unique case. He was having problems running those Samsung modules (which I sent him and had them previously at 2133 with 9-10-10-30 1T @ 1.575v) so I came looking thru this thread for possible solutions to the ram issue. As I was reading the thread I came across those other posts of guys having problems with corrupted BIOS.
Is it just me, or does this appear to be a higher than expected number of corrupted BIOS files?


Corrupted BIOS is probably due to bad flashes from unstable RAM/over clocking settings. I had problems with the Samsung popular over clocking RAM, it wouldn't over clock at all. Also tried Crucial Tactical 1866mhz CL 9-9-9-27 1.5v and it wouldn't post with the XMP profile. This mb is very finicky with ram. I have a set of 2x4GB Gskill 2400mhz CL10 kit that runs stable with the XMP set but if I try to over clock or under clock it will not post. RAM seems to be a big problem with the MB.

The other problem I have had is the lucidlogix Virtu MvP only worked well for 3 days then crapped out and I can't figure out how to work it. I contacted MSI and did what they asked me and it got to the point where they thought I should send in the MB to be RMA'd. I think the board is fine but it has software issues in the BIOS.
Edited by SonDa5 - 11/13/12 at 12:53am
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Anyone know if you can turn off the avexir lights on the ram? Or customize the sequence in which they flash? Thanks in advance smile.gif

Not sure. Any way to take off the heat shields and unplug the lights?
Edited by SonDa5 - 11/12/12 at 8:39pm
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post #707 of 3634
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Not sure. Any way to take of the heat shields and unplug the lights?

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Anyone know if you can turn off the avexir lights on the ram? Or customize the sequence in which they flash? Thanks in advance smile.gif

No, you can not. The heat spreader is very stuck on there so you risk damaging the modules trying to take it off. Not to mention the LED's are soldered to the PCB.
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Heres some more attempts with the above suggestions and my observations.

Main screen:
mainscreen.png

Overclock Settings page:
OCsettingmainpage.png

Overclock Genie page:
OCgeniemainpage.png

Timings page (not sure if I did this all correctly):
AdvancedDRAMconfigscreen.png

Running Prime95 blend test. Noticed the ram frequency listed in cpuz says 1000 which is weird:
memoryfrequency.jpg

After ten minutes in Prime95 with blend test running:
10mininprime95at38notdownclocking.jpg

One thing I noticed is after stopping the workers in prime95 my CPU did not kick back to 3.4. No BSODs during the ten minute run. Motherboard still reads out A0 as apposed to temps like it should. What do I do now? Not trying to be spoon fed I am sorry, this board is just baffling to me.
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Heres some more attempts with the above suggestions and my observations.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Main screen:
mainscreen.png
Overclock Settings page:
OCsettingmainpage.png
Overclock Genie page:
OCgeniemainpage.png

AdvancedDRAMconfigscreen.png
Running Prime95 blend test. Noticed the ram frequency listed in cpuz says 1000 which is weird:
memoryfrequency.jpg
After ten minutes in Prime95 with blend test running:
10mininprime95at38notdownclocking.jpg
One thing I noticed is after stopping the workers in prime95 my CPU did not kick back to 3.4. No BSODs during the ten minute run. Motherboard still reads out A0 as apposed to temps like it should. What do I do now? Not trying to be spoon fed I am sorry, this board is just baffling to me.
I do see that you have the memory set up in OC Genie settings - so set the speed to auto under the main oc settings page - also set the all the timings and take off the XMP setting in OC Genie setting. Your memory is working correctly, DDR3 has an actual and effective memory speed - actual speed for 2000MHz is 1000MHz - for ddr3 multiply by 2 - effective speed is 2000MHz . I am working on getting some information to help diagnose the A0 issue.

Please get back to me on the following issues -

Error 72 - RAM mfg/model/spec/config, all BIOS version & settings, detailed account of issues, troubleshooting steps taken, also all other HW in system and system specifics about build --- all as specific and as detailed as possible

Flashing BIOS - Please report if you have a corrupted BIOS all the steps you took to flash. I want you to tell me if you loaded all the defaults and saved/reboot ( f6>f10>into bios> mflash). please be clear and honest so we can nail down the cause.
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No, I have not. I would think that having Dual Channel memory would be the way to go. I could try putting them in slot1 and slot2 but then I lose the advantage of dual channel memory. Does everybody have to run single channel for something as simple as a temp readout to work? I have to say, I am pretty disappointed in my new build. Every other AMD rig I have ever built was simple, worked right the first time. This intel rig has been a headache. Pretty sad because this was a big chunk of money, and a lot of research, and time, and lost excitement over my new performance gain.


Every build that I have done I learn new stuff about the motherboard in use.. If you are coming from AMD I'm sure you are going to need to learn a few things about the new MB.

What do you want to do with the BIOS settings? Do want to over clock?
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