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Originally Posted by sidewu View Post

What is your issue with the mpower?

Here you go, copied from post# 692


Now my problems at hand:
1st Problem:
Went into the bios and started to ramp her up a bit. 4.0Ghgz was a cakewalk at stock voltage. Just multi. Then I got brave and went 44 on the multi and bumped up the vcore a notch to 1.3v. Then I decided to play with the ram.
Ram= 1866, 10-10-10-28-1T- 1.35v
Cpu = x44, 1.3v
Saved and rebooted.....this is when all hell broke loose PC rebooted and got stock at reboot cycle. Would not pass error code 72 on the debug LED.
Powered off, unplug off wall, remove vid cards, remove cmos battery and waited 20 min. Put everything back, press power button..reboots...again stuck at 72 reboot cycle. Read manual and switch over the bios switch to "B" and reboot, finally back at desktop. Go to MSI's site, follow guide to flash corrupted "A" bios repair. Follow it to the letter...and I'm rewarded with a dead primary bios mad.gif
Running back-up bios "B" at 4.3Ghz @1.2V and ram @ 1866, 10-10-10-28-1T- 1.35v .

2nd problem:
My Samsungs were able to run 1866, but now they don't pass stock 1600. No matter what I try, voltages, timings, they will not pass 1600. I even tried just 2 sticks to no avail.
Don't get me wrong I luv this new setup and was looking forward to it as my new upgrade. Now I'm having doubts. Running on secondary bios i'm not happy about, nor am I happy my ram won't run the proven 2133.
ANything I can do about my problems or am I SOL?
post #752 of 3633
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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

Here are my BIOS settings for Overclocking... these are the base for any CPU OC I run.. no matter if its 4.2 or 5.6.. the only things that change from here are volts for CPU and RAM. My intentions in posting these is NOT for users to copy the voltages.. but to pay attention to the POWER settings I am using for higher CPU clocks with HT enabled. By leaving vdroop options set to 100% and switching freq to 2x; my vcore does NOT change in OS.. though CPU frequency does [ I show this in my vid below].
















 I threw my RAM timings in just for GP.. using Team Dark which have Samsung HCH9 IC's... the listed subtimings are good for my to use up to around 2500mhz with this kit in conjunction with ~1.72 - 1.74v. The timings set and speed above only needs ~1.57v though..

**Embedding options not working** if a mod sees this maybe they can edit : Here is the link for my video... http://s265.beta.photobucket.com/user/CL3P20/media/MSI_movie.mp4.html
Below are the BIOS screen shots that correspond to the settings in the video. I show CPU clocking from 1600mhz up to 4400mhz wink.gif











 I hope this is of some help to those that are having difficulties with their CPU "sticking" at said clocks.. as well as others that are having a hard time stabilizing OC's beyond 4.5ghz. 

I used your senting on my I5 2500k and overclockt to 4.1 on 1.160V but the cpu does not downclock! Any ideas how I can how can I maket it downclock?

Which is the maximum voltage to the GPU HD 3000 mine has reached 1.25v
post #753 of 3633
I am Surprised the "Core Switching Frequency " needs to go to 2x

I have no trouble doing 4.5(4500mhz) leaving it at default
post #754 of 3633
How are the fan controls on this board?
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post #755 of 3633
In my case the fan curve for cpu fan works only, at the moment.

I have silent fans so I do not needet!
Edited by ShadyGaby - 11/15/12 at 2:04pm
post #756 of 3633
I can't get it to downclock either really odd.
post #757 of 3633
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Originally Posted by Munkypoo7 View Post

Just.. um... I did that. While the Sabertooth isn't a bad board, seems stable and, well, it works, it's more... idk how to explain it. The MPower board felt like a quality board, this Sabertooth feels more like a little toy with a plastic shroud gimmick.
The MPower also has more convenient features imo ,like the GoToBIOS button, loved that thing, as well as integrated bluetooth and wifi, additionally, a simpler UEFI system.. my opinion of course.
All I know is, I can't wait to get my replacement and sell off this Sabertooth, Munky misses his MPower sad-smiley-002.gif

Well, that doesn't sound too great. I just wish mine would work the way its supposed to. Has anyone else had their BIOS show up like the pic I posted on the last page? Anyone else have problems getting their settings to actually stick? My voltage does whatever it wants even though I'm at 1.07 in the bios which is upping my temps. Let alone whatever is causing my compatibility issues and making my board read A0 instead of temps like it should.
post #758 of 3633
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Originally Posted by ride1226 View Post

Well, that doesn't sound too great. I just wish mine would work the way its supposed to. Has anyone else had their BIOS show up like the pic I posted on the last page? Anyone else have problems getting their settings to actually stick? My voltage does whatever it wants even though I'm at 1.07 in the bios which is upping my temps. Let alone whatever is causing my compatibility issues and making my board read A0 instead of temps like it should.

You got volts on auto or 100% in hybrid digital power setting cpu core v droop offset?

If on 100% or another percentage likely you have a manual number entered for cpu volts?
post #759 of 3633
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Originally Posted by ride1226 View Post

When I copied your options over I did not touch my timings or voltages or frequency. Saved and reloaded and my ram was at 1066. Pretty strange. Tried to set it back but in the options it still had my timings and frequency selected in bios. Load to windows, still says 1066. Ended up loading defaults again, CPU was down clocking to 1600, and up to 3800 under prime95 but my voltages that I set to 1.07 weren't sticking and instead it would auto adjust to whatever it felt like. Up to 1.129ish which raised my load temps 7-8*c. Why wont this board do what I tell it to? Lol.

 

If you have C1E and EIST enabled...your CPU should clock down on idle. If you have a multi for each core/turbo set.. then it typically will only go as low as said multi [by using multi settings in CPU page of BIOS.. vs using multi setting on OC settings page of BIOS]. As for the increase in vcore.. thats just due to you settings switching freq to 2x and droop to 100% i think. Change those two settings and you should see vcore around your previous.. or just lower it in BIOS now to compensate for the small increase under load.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Blatsz32 View Post

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Originally Posted by llamaboiz View Post

As I catch up n read the past pages I want to remind lurkers/possible buyers/new owners:
People mostly come to forums when they problems, many of us who own this board have none and many of the problems you read here are user error, either by playing with the BIOS and/or tryinpostedg to go cheep by taking crappy RAM beyond its limits. This board is rock solid.

So the fact that there have been quit a few BIOS corruptions has nothing to do wit a potential manufacturers issue? You mean to tell me that someone inputing bad cpu or memory voltage and/or clocks is the reason that the BIOS suddenly corrupts? A lot of these issues are due to exactly that. Personally it sounds like an unstable and poorly written BIOS. I suffered from the BIos corruption bug on my first over lock....and no i do not have crappy ram. Over locking takes "user error" to Stabilize.
l think when someone invests in a board like this they are going to get the best or at least qvl ram. Don't get me wrong, ow that i have tamed the beast that is the MPower i love this board. But i am still wary with every restart from a new over lock...i am one of those people that has a stable board but this didn't happen till after i experienced the BIOS bug and replaced with a new one

when panther first came out i bought the Asus Sabertooth,it too had Bios issues. This is a new board,and with it comes issues that i Believe MSI will address.

 

 a BIOS flash is something that can be error very easily... i would not start discrediting a manufacturer on the basis that a completely consumer-based activity is producing 'less than desirable' results....   I for one have had no issues with updating my BIOS now a few times.. and recovering a corrupted BIOS as well. I did not update ME with flash.. only BIOS.. again.. no problems.

 

 I will side with you on the fact that the initial release BIOS is a bit wonky.. and that the mobo has some aggressive tertiary timing sets by default in my opinion. These two things in conjunction can contribute to a corrupted BIOS..but are not always going to produce one. The boot-looping and BIOS failure is more attributed to the "Click-BIOS" and its structure than anything else...again.. my opinion. This is partially why these types of complaints can be found across manufacturers now.. as "Click" is somehow the new standard. Expect more BIOS RMA as a result until we can pry for socketed BIOS chips again !!! 

 

 

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Originally Posted by twm.7 View Post

Hi guys !

I have a little issue that I wasn't able to fix by myself, so I guess your knowledge might help me:
Before windows load, my POST screen isn't centered. I mean, it's like the monitor wasn't correctly configured (everything is fine after the POST).

I tried unplugging & plugging them back, tried to launch an "auto-detect" during the POST, without luck.

Might be the time to do a bios upgrade ? I'm still running on the default one as I had no issues with it, I don't know if that can help me ?

 

Could be how your monitor scales with the default VGA driver? I have this issue with only 1x monitor so far.. but that monitor does it using my Gigabyte X58-OC as well... so... ?! I doubt a BIOS flash will affect what your seeing.. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tyreman View Post

Well I tried your power option settings on your 4400mhz and mine never clocks down to 1600's

Keep in mind i am running at 4500mhz but still should clock down

In real temp she will clock down to 2800's,3800's, 4000's etc but on cpuiz it never clocks down.

Its a great stable board............... but a pain in the rear to clock down to 16x then auto ramp up to oc..Strange

 

Are you using new version of CPU-Z? Do you have C1E and EIST enabled? 

 

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Originally Posted by Tyreman View Post

I am Surprised the "Core Switching Frequency " needs to go to 2x

I have no trouble doing 4.5(4500mhz) leaving it at default

 

It does not.. as you can see from my previous post " My intentions in posting these is NOT for users to copy the voltages.. but to pay attention to the POWER settings I am using for higher CPU clocks with HT enabled. By leaving vdroop options set to 100% and switching freq to 2x; my vcore does NOT change in OS.. though CPU frequency does"

 

 I strap a pot on CPU, put vcore to 1.5v and boot at 5.6ghz using those settings..  Those settings still allow for CPU to downclock on idle.. even with higher vcores. As you start going to the plus-side of 4.4ghz with HT on, your vdroop will start affecting stability if you dont move some power settings around. 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by sidewu View Post

What is your issue with the mpower?

Here you go, copied from post# 692


Now my problems at hand:
1st Problem:
Went into the bios and started to ramp her up a bit. 4.0Ghgz was a cakewalk at stock voltage. Just multi. Then I got brave and went 44 on the multi and bumped up the vcore a notch to 1.3v. Then I decided to play with the ram.
Ram= 1866, 10-10-10-28-1T- 1.35v
Cpu = x44, 1.3v
Saved and rebooted.....this is when all hell broke loose PC rebooted and got stock at reboot cycle. Would not pass error code 72 on the debug LED.
Powered off, unplug off wall, remove vid cards, remove cmos battery and waited 20 min. Put everything back, press power button..reboots...again stuck at 72 reboot cycle. Read manual and switch over the bios switch to "B" and reboot, finally back at desktop. Go to MSI's site, follow guide to flash corrupted "A" bios repair. Follow it to the letter...and I'm rewarded with a dead primary bios mad.gif
Running back-up bios "B" at 4.3Ghz @1.2V and ram @ 1866, 10-10-10-28-1T- 1.35v .

2nd problem:
My Samsungs were able to run 1866, but now they don't pass stock 1600. No matter what I try, voltages, timings, they will not pass 1600. I even tried just 2 sticks to no avail.
Don't get me wrong I luv this new setup and was looking forward to it as my new upgrade. Now I'm having doubts. Running on secondary bios i'm not happy about, nor am I happy my ram won't run the proven 2133.
ANything I can do about my problems or am I SOL?

 

RAM is a funny thing sometimes.. so is an IMC. If you are using different SA voltages now vs. then this would affect IMC/memory. Your post is a bit confusing though.. I understand your primary BIOS is dead.. but what RAM are you now using and what speed/voltage?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by ShadyGaby View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

Here are my BIOS settings for Overclocking... these are the base for any CPU OC I run.. no matter if its 4.2 or 5.6.. the only things that change from here are volts for CPU and RAM. My intentions in posting these is NOT for users to copy the voltages.. but to pay attention to the POWER settings I am using for higher CPU clocks with HT enabled. By leaving vdroop options set to 100% and switching freq to 2x; my vcore does NOT change in OS.. though CPU frequency does [ I show this in my vid below].


**snip**

 I threw my RAM timings in just for GP.. using Team Dark which have Samsung HCH9 IC's... the listed subtimings are good for my to use up to around 2500mhz with this kit in conjunction with ~1.72 - 1.74v. The timings set and speed above only needs ~1.57v though..

**Embedding options not working** if a mod sees this maybe they can edit : Here is the link for my video... http://s265.beta.photobucket.com/user/CL3P20/media/MSI_movie.mp4.html
Below are the BIOS screen shots that correspond to the settings in the video. I show CPU clocking from 1600mhz up to 4400mhz wink.gif


**snip**


 I hope this is of some help to those that are having difficulties with their CPU "sticking" at said clocks.. as well as others that are having a hard time stabilizing OC's beyond 4.5ghz. 

I used your senting on my I5 2500k and overclockt to 4.1 on 1.160V but the cpu does not downclock! Any ideas how I can how can I maket it downclock?

Which is the maximum voltage to the GPU HD 3000 mine has reached 1.25v

 

 

 If C1E and EIST are enabled.. CPU should clock down. Are you using OC Genie, or have you set your CPU multi using the multi selections on the CPU page of the BIOS? 

post #760 of 3633
Using CPUID/CPUz 1.62 so that is newest I think

Both EIST and C1E enabled

Won't clock down BUT if load optimized defaults it will clock down and ramp back up as to load



On the main overclock page we have one core setting "Adjust CPU Ratio" i have that at 45

Then if we enter "CPU Features" we have 4 individual Core Ratio Limit settings possible
these number go from a high of 45 to a low i believe of 36
Edited by Tyreman - 11/15/12 at 6:31pm
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