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Congrats on the new owners of the MPower thumb.gif I'm hoping somone finds a fix for my dead bios issue otherwise I'll be forced to purchase a new board and RMA this one.
Please PM me if you wish to attempt a more involved way to get that bios reflashed
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Are you using new version of CPU-Z? Do you have C1E and EIST enabled? 

I think it would be wise if everybody would say what version of the software they are using to get measurements from. Sometimes there are versions that can read wrong/inaccurately/not at all
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Please PM me if you wish to attempt a more involved way to get that bios reflashed

You have pm Sir thumb.gif
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Using CPUID/CPUz 1.62 so that is newest I think

Both EIST and C1E enabled

Won't clock down BUT if load optimized defaults it will clock down and ramp back up as to load



On the main overclock page we have one core setting "Adjust CPU Ratio" i have that at 45

Then if we enter "CPU Features" we have 4 individual Core Ratio Limit settings possible
these number go from a high of 45 to a low i believe of 36

 

 is 3.6ghz the lowest your CPU is clocking down to then? .. or is it not downclocking at all ?

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Another REALLY nifty feature I've noticed is the debug LED displays CPU temperature as soon as its POST loop is done, I have never seen this before and it is an excellent feature because I can just glance over and see the temp while gaming or whatever. I haven't really had time to do any kind of benchmarks with it but these are just my initial impressions. I'm extremely happy with it for the price, I had to buy something reasonable since I was putting everything on my credit card.

EVGA boards do this as well.. in fact EVGA boards are so similar to MSI now, I think MSI is their OEM
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 is 3.6ghz the lowest your CPU is clocking down to then? .. or is it not downclocking at all ?





It down clocks on real temp 1840,1910, 2970,2980, differing 3000's,differing 4000's you can see it there in real temp

But never goes down to 16x and never in cpuid/cpuiz

Downloaded the newest MSI Control Center and some cores do move say low 4000's and even bounce up into 5000's
You can see this in Overclocking>Advanced, cpu graphs
Also underneath each cpu plot cpu 0 to cpu3 is the ratio setting 45/45
When just sitting on the desktop with almost no cpu use though dropping down mostly low 4000's
Edited by Tyreman - 11/16/12 at 1:08am
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I still debate taking mine back for a sabertooth exchange. I'm hoping the experts here in this thread can get me sorted out though, either that or there is some known bios issues that MSI will release a bios update to fix. Like the user above, my post screen will come in in the correct resolution sometimes, and other times it will try to come in full screen but be all glitchy looking. Sometimes if I enter bios when I get the weird looking post screen I then get a glitch overlapping bios screen like I posted on the last page that is unusable. Still have A0 posted on my debug screen, and still having a hard time getting settings that I set to stick. Thisboard is holding me back from getting my water cooling loop bought and built as well as actually getting to over clock my CPU like MSI brags this board can do so well.

Just.. um... I did that. While the Sabertooth isn't a bad board, seems stable and, well, it works, it's more... idk how to explain it. The MPower board felt like a quality board, this Sabertooth feels more like a little toy with a plastic shroud gimmick.

The MPower also has more convenient features imo ,like the GoToBIOS button, loved that thing, as well as integrated bluetooth and wifi, additionally, a simpler UEFI system.. my opinion of course.

All I know is, I can't wait to get my replacement and sell off this Sabertooth, Munky misses his MPower sad-smiley-002.gif

I agree with Munky above.

I'd wait a bit first before going for the sabertooth. The MPower is still new and they will work out some of these problems with time, and then you will end up with a great board. The MSI MPower is very good at OCing and has lots of features for the price on top of that. I am trying out a new Asus Sabertooth right now and comparied to the MPower I tried last week it is not as good of a OC'er. The MPower has lower vcore per OC for same CPUs I've tried and better SSD/HDD and memory benches. Both boards are very stable though and quality boards. Yet the MPower has more features like BT and wireless. There are good reasons why it has very good reviews.

One major advantage for the sabertooth for me though is that it did not require a reload of the OS when I installed it - maybe due to me going from one Asus board to another. Real smooth install. Yet when I did the same steps for the MPower the OS started acting strange - I could not run many programs like CPU-Z, as well as many other issues - although I could run W7 and installed all the drivers. I was going to have to reinstall the OS - but that is not always a bad thing - to have a fresh install of the OS!

So consider waiting a bit before you go to the sabertooth. There is some good help on this thread that may solve your issues in time and probably some updated BIOS on the way.
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If you have C1E and EIST enabled...your CPU should clock down on idle. If you have a multi for each core/turbo set.. then it typically will only go as low as said multi [by using multi settings in CPU page of BIOS.. vs using multi setting on OC settings page of BIOS]. As for the increase in vcore.. thats just due to you settings switching freq to 2x and droop to 100% i think. Change those two settings and you should see vcore around your previous.. or just lower it in BIOS now to compensate for the small increase under load.



 a BIOS flash is something that can be error very easily... i would not start discrediting a manufacturer on the basis that a completely consumer-based activity is producing 'less than desirable' results....   I for one have had no issues with updating my BIOS now a few times.. and recovering a corrupted BIOS as well. I did not update ME with flash.. only BIOS.. again.. no problems.

 I will side with you on the fact that the initial release BIOS is a bit wonky.. and that the mobo has some aggressive tertiary timing sets by default in my opinion. These two things in conjunction can contribute to a corrupted BIOS..but are not always going to produce one. The boot-looping and BIOS failure is more attributed to the "Click-BIOS" and its structure than anything else...again.. my opinion. This is partially why these types of complaints can be found across manufacturers now.. as "Click" is somehow the new standard. Expect more BIOS RMA as a result until we can pry for socketed BIOS chips again !!! 



Could be how your monitor scales with the default VGA driver? I have this issue with only 1x monitor so far.. but that monitor does it using my Gigabyte X58-OC as well... so... ?! I doubt a BIOS flash will affect what your seeing.. 



Are you using new version of CPU-Z? Do you have C1E and EIST enabled? 


It does not.. as you can see from my previous post " My intentions in posting these is NOT for users to copy the voltages.. but to pay attention to the POWER settings I am using for higher CPU clocks with HT enabled. By leaving vdroop options set to 100% and switching freq to 2x; my vcore does NOT change in OS.. though CPU frequency does"


 I strap a pot on CPU, put vcore to 1.5v and boot at 5.6ghz using those settings..  Those settings still allow for CPU to downclock on idle.. even with higher vcores. As you start going to the plus-side of 4.4ghz with HT on, your vdroop will start affecting stability if you dont move some power settings around. 



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RAM is a funny thing sometimes.. so is an IMC. If you are using different SA voltages now vs. then this would affect IMC/memory. Your post is a bit confusing though.. I understand your primary BIOS is dead.. but what RAM are you now using and what speed/voltage?





 If C1E and EIST are enabled.. CPU should clock down. Are you using OC Genie, or have you set your CPU multi using the multi selections on the CPU page of the BIOS? 

C1E and EIST are enabled and no downclock! OCGenie is of, the milti is set for all core not the multi for each core!

The bios is 17.4!
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C1E and EIST are enabled and no downclock! OCGenie is of, the milti is set for all core not the multi for each core!
The bios is 17.4!



In CPU Features you have each core ratio limit setting to what number?

Adjust CPU ratio on main overclock page is?
Edited by Tyreman - 11/16/12 at 3:05am
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I have not changed any multi in CPU Features!

I adjusted the CPU ratio on main page only.
Edited by ShadyGaby - 11/16/12 at 3:08am
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I have not changed any multi in CPU Features!

Okay but is the numbers the same as the cpu ratio or different numbers
didn't mean you did just trying to fix this down clock issue
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