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post #11 of 17
I thought there was something annoying about the ASRock Extreme 4 that affected a certain set of people concerned about some feature. I saw a thread about it recently, but can't bring to mind what the person was complaining about. I suppose chances are that it won't affect you, though, if you do decide that it is the best board for you.

I agree with the idea of getting an X79 board with 8 DIMM slots. Nothing bothers me more than the piles of DIMMs I have bundled up on my computer parts shelves. Having a bunch of memory slots was one of the draws of the X79 chipset for me. I took nleksan's "Buy once, cry once" advice and put 32 GB (4 x 8GB) worth of 1866MHz 1.5v memory in the first four slots. This way I have the ability to max out my board's memory if I ever need to without having to let any more RAM go to waste (which is hilarious considering it's kinda going to waste most of the time it's in my computer, but you know what I mean wink.gif).

Hopefully it will help me keep DDR3 sticks off the shelf, where I have a bunch of different speed DDR2 DIMMs/SO-DIMMs. It also reminds me of the guts of the few servers I own. They tend to have obscene numbers of DIMM slots. smile.gif

I have the Asus P9X79 Deluxe, but I think if I had a second chance I would have gotten the P9X79 WS. Unfortunately, it uses a workstation form factor rather than ATX (CEB). I would have had to buy a new wireless NIC, though, and I didn't have the money at the time to get everything plus a NIC. I don't have any experience at all with the ASRock brand, so I can't give you any advice about their quality, but I am pleased with the quality and features of the P9X79 Deluxe.
post #12 of 17
if you like underdogs, check out MSI's BigBang II....They retail for 420US$ but someone said they dropped the price down to 299!!!
I currently own it and its one of the best values around.....

In brief: (10 SATA, 128GB Ram, Quad GPU, Dual LAN, 6 USB3, Extra CPU 8Pin, Extra GPU 6Pin....), looks great and it works with Xeon CPU's....

check out the looks & Features:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1238737/official-msi-big-bang-xpower-ii-owners-club-overclocking-thread
Edited by eXXon - 9/10/12 at 12:13am
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post #13 of 17
also, if you want some nice cheap ram that you can get alot out of, go for the Samsung 30NM ICs. they overclock like nothing else....
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by eXXon View Post

if you like underdogs, check out MSI's BigBang II....They retail for 420US$ but someone said they dropped the price down to 299!!!
I currently own it and its one of the best values around.....
In brief: (10 SATA, 128GB Ram, Quad GPU, Dual LAN, 6 USB3, Extra CPU 8Pin, Extra GPU 6Pin....), looks great and it works with Xeon CPU's....
check out the looks & Features:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1238737/official-msi-big-bang-xpower-ii-owners-club-overclocking-thread

I looked at that one as the bullets worked with my theoretical black/gold theme. One of my friends has an MSI Board and he loves it. However, the XL-ATX form factor wouldn't fit in any of the cases I'm considering. Until I make enough money to buy something from caselabs, boards of that size are little too much for me.

Good suggestion, nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis158 View Post

also, if you want some nice cheap ram that you can get alot out of, go for the Samsung 30NM ICs. they overclock like nothing else....

I'll check them out. Cool avatar, by the way.
post #16 of 17
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Continuing with the memory question...

Would memory heat sinks and adequate airflow be enough to get some good OC benchmarks?

Im planning to WC one GPU at first and add the second GPU when I can add a second monitor. Two GPUs is the most I plan on installing.
post #17 of 17
Memory heatsinks for the GPU VRAM or the system RAM? And are you referring to using heatsinks if you should choose to go with the Samsung RAM?

Because honestly, they really aren't necessary for actual heat reduction as DDR3 runs so cool even at 2133+, so it's more about bling than anything, especially RAM water cooling blocks (I would consider it but only if there was literally nothing else I could possibly spend money on for my PC). If you want regular air cooling heatsinks, I saw a kit on Performance PCs that looks wicked with the R4E, but I can't remember who makes it just that each DIMM has two rows of very tall and slim "fins", and I remember them because I saw them used in one of the MDPC's painted white and as white and black is my theme, I really want to get them at some point.
I personally think that the Samsung memory is awesome, but you should keep in mind that you are buying DDR3 1333LV 1.35v RAM and that is the only speed you are guaranteed to reach, and while many people have a lot of luck overclocking higher, it's in no way guaranteed and you can't RMA the stuff because "it doesn't overclock to 2x its rated speed". Also, the timings are fairly loose at speeds, 11-12-11 or 11-11-11 @ 2133.
Personally, I recommend the G.Skill Ripjaws Z 16GB Quad-Channel Kit with 4x4GB of DDR3-2133 9-11-10-28 @ 1.65v. It's $130 when not on sale, and Cadaveca at TPU has done some extensive overclocking of the stuff and it is incredibly versatile, with 23xx speeds reachable without more than a change to 10-11-10, but when you drop the speed down you can run super fast timings (CL8 @ 1866, CL7 @ 1600, CL6 @ 1333 or sometimes even a bit lower), or you can run it above 2400 with very decent timings.
I have found that, in my experience, a mixture of speed and tight timings is what SNBE likes most, with DDR3 2133 CL9 being the best "feeling" RAM for actual use; it may not break records, but it's latency is extremely low (when you calculate nanoseconds, and I am having a brain fart but I believe it's CAS divided by speed in Mhz times 1000 = ns latency).
I also think it's a huge advantage to have RAM warrantied for life at that speed, but that's just my opinion.

Also, between the Rampage 4 Extreme and P9X79 Pro, I would get the R4E every time, but I would never order it from Newegg. I got my board and 3930K for $220 less than Newegg (and I paid tax, which I don't for NE). Micro Center is awesome for boards and CPU's, and I walked out with a BNIB R4E, a 3930K, 4x 32GB USB3.0 Flash Drives, miscellaneous cables/fan wire grills, 8x Bitspower fittings, and a number of other small things for under $1k (@ 6.5% state sales tax), and got another $100 off for getting a MC Credit Card which = 12mo no interest + 3 free extra months. I also really don't trust Newegg and their inability to package anything, as of the 5 shipments I got from them (+ having to RMA my first Switch 810 bc it was damaged and was clearly previously opened, but I paid for new), only one (my EVGA GTX670 FTW) came in a box with peanuts. Plus, spending 3 weeks arguing with them about it being absolutely insane to ship me a noticeably damaged and previously owned case and then expect me to pay $38 to ship it back while getting no guarantee of replacement, and charging another $18 for shipping back to me! $56 to get what I already paid for, that's absurd. Of course, the second case was also damaged but it was just paint scuffs and scratches, which was not worth an RMA but I did send them pictures (all date/time stamped) of opening the box and the paint damage and said that I would not make them pay another $56 in shipping (even though I told them the first time that if they don't ship it in a second, secure box I would continue refusing shipments until they did), and said that even though they continue to be the absolute worst retailer I've ever used in terms of packaging, I would repair (touch up) the damaged areas myself with custom matched / mixed paint so long as they are willing to warranty the case for 2yrs instead of 30days. They agreed.
I had a miserable experience with that ordeal, but I still buy some stuff from them.
I recommend you DO NOT order the following from them:
- Motherboards (bent pins, getting sent refurbished or open items as new, greasy fingerprints on the PCB, and the majority of time they refuse replacement or refund saying that it's the user's fault)
- Hard Drives (Newegg has a higher HDD failure rate than any other company I know of because they don't even pad the box!)
- Some Cases (depending on the manufacturers box quality, as that is what gets shipped, aka drop-kicked across the country, with absolutely no other protection)
- Many accessories are overpriced, but the Shell Shocker and weekly newsletter deals can be great.


I would order from as many sites as it takes to get the best prices, but for MoBo, CPU, HDDs, etc, I will stick to Micro Center as much as possible, although I may end up buying the WD RE4 1TB drives or the supposedly soon-to-be-released 1TB/platter WD Caviar Blacks from them but telling them upfront that if the packaging is bad, it will be RMA'd until it's properly shipped with a full amount of peanuts/foam.

For water cooling, I got parts from:
- Performance PCs (AWESOME place, great people, and they are the absolute best of the bigger retailers for H2O stuff)
- Micro Center (an MCP35X and various Bitspower fittings, all BNIB and all marked way down)
- JabTech (unbeatable prices, seriously, and awesome service, perhaps the best)
- Sidewinder Computers (as good as JabTech with slightly more selection in most areas)
- FrozenCPU (last resort, and they wouldn't honor my discount code for 5.1pct off, so I only ordered a couple Bgears Blasters that were out of stock elsewhere)
- Amazon (had $115 in Amazon Points from credit card, and while I got what I ordered, the parts that were supposed to come from one seller came from 4 different ones, and it just didn't feel anywhere near the same "quality" in some way as the PPCs/JabTech/SWC orders did)

I did save $97.48, not including Amazon credit/order, by buying from all over the place instead of at just PPCs, even with the multiple shipping costs. I would, however now having worked with them, gladly place an entire order through them (they were OOS of the Heatkiller backplate, NeXXos UT60 240, and a few other things). Same goes for JabTech and Sidewinder although they both need a much, much larger selection.
However, I will not deal with FCPU ever again unless it's an absolute emergency as 4 of the 6 Bgears Blasters 140mm fans I ordered had to come from them and while my PPCs fans are the new, matte-black model, the ones from FCPU are the very old and "non-updated" model which really pisses me off bc they are so ridiculously expensive compared to other retailers costs for the fans ($13.49! PPCs are $11, and Tiger Direct is $8.95 and my original place of order but I couldn't ever quite catch them in stock). I am debating writing to FCPU about the issue, as I am displeased.

Sorry for ranting, but I hope my ranting was somehow useful (has useful information). I am happy to answer any other questions, so please ask!
Take care and good luck.
   
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