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the vaio screen is also probably mediocre. it is just a high rez normal tn screen. the zenbook prime screen is very nice. the mbp displays aren't bad though. they aren't the best on the market but they are above average. most people on ocn interpret accurate color reproduction solely based on gamut reproduction when there are so many other factors at work, including the difference between contrast, srgb color versus adobe etc. for example, monitors with full adobe will actually be less accurate in a normal desktop environment, because normal desktop software is not designed for it. and if you don't calibrate your monitor, it's all irrelevant.
as a pro photographer, all of these screens would not be ideal anyway. any glossy screen would be unusable and you'd ideally want an ips (even though the zenbook prime has a nicer looking screen, you'd probably have to choose between the vaio and mbp purely because they are matte and zbp is glossy). and rez would be secondary to color accuracy anyway. you'd probably go with one of those dell or hp workstations with 100% adobe matte ips screens. but those start around $2k as well.


The Vaio Z screen is on a different level than the Retina display. It covers 96% of the Adobe RGB compared to the MBP Retina's 70%.... True that without calibration, both screens would be inaccurate because most desktop software is not designed for such a large color gamut. However, with calibration, the Vaio Z display is more accurate than the Retina. The Zenbook Prime displays are on the same level as the MBP Retina is terms of covering the color gamut. Also, the Zenbook Prime and Vaio Z screens are matte.. The MBP Retina is not. Apple says they reduced glare, but if you have ever seen one in person, you will notice that the screen is still very glossy.

Of course a workstation IPS would be the best for photo work, but that's not the point I am trying to make. What I'm saying is that people try to justify the display by saying "oh the res is so high" and "oh, the colors are great", even though there are much better options for a cheaper price. Especially since, like I said in my last point, compared to other 1080p displays, there isn't really a noticeable sharpness factor that my 20/20/15 eyes can see and you don't gain the extra workspace of true 1800p... Seems like it's all about the e-peen to me.
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I have seen an rMBP.
Not that stunning, probably cos I'm used to this awesome IPS.
Pixel pitch improved, but no matte ruins it for me.

you have the matte bug too? ugh i hate matte displays (except it is a sunny day to be out sitting at starbucks with my mac)
     
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I have seen an rMBP.
Not that stunning, probably cos I'm used to this awesome IPS.
Pixel pitch improved, but no matte ruins it for me.

The rMBP has an IPS display...
    
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I meant matte
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Yes, I do hate matte but I can get used to it. Most laptops have it and use it as a selling point. They should offer non-matte and then sell the film as like an add on.
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The Vaio Z screen is on a different level than the Retina display. It covers 96% of the Adobe RGB compared to the MBP Retina's 70%.... True that without calibration, both screens would be inaccurate because most desktop software is not designed for such a large color gamut. However, with calibration, the Vaio Z display is more accurate than the Retina. The Zenbook Prime displays are on the same level as the MBP Retina is terms of covering the color gamut. Also, the Zenbook Prime and Vaio Z screens are matte.. The MBP Retina is not. Apple says they reduced glare, but if you have ever seen one in person, you will notice that the screen is still very glossy.
Of course a workstation IPS would be the best for photo work, but that's not the point I am trying to make. What I'm saying is that people try to justify the display by saying "oh the res is so high" and "oh, the colors are great", even though there are much better options for a cheaper price. Especially since, like I said in my last point, compared to other 1080p displays, there isn't really a noticeable sharpness factor that my 20/20/15 eyes can see and you don't gain the extra workspace of true 1800p... Seems like it's all about the e-peen to me.

13" and 15" are apple and oranges-a 1080p 15" laptop has lower pixel density than a 13" 1080p obviously. if you're saying you can't see pixels on a 13" 1080p, that's fine but 15" is obviously different. as far as whether matte or glossy is better, you trade off with both. usually you get better viewing angles with glossy and generally glossy tends to look clear while matte tends to look a bit more blurred, but eliminates glare better. the rmbp is antireflective, so while it's glossy it is not reflective in a noticeable way indoors in my experience. i never use it outdoors though

beyond that, i never said it was the best laptop screen. whatever is the best depends on context obviously. it is not for pro designer/photographer use, or necessarily for gaming either (though i prefer 16:10 on a laptop for gaming, the rez itself doesn't really make a difference.) but it is the best e-reader i'd argue, among 15" laptops at least
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4978570&CatId=4935

TD just listed the top model. Adding $500 for 256gb of SSD space is stupid on their part. I'll get a single 256gb model and stick a hybrid drive in from some place that won't rip me off.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4978570&CatId=4935
TD just listed the top model. Adding $500 for 256gb of SSD space is stupid on their part. I'll get a single 256gb model and stick a hybrid drive in from some place that won't rip me off.

Wow, nearly 2 times over my budget
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Yes, I do hate matte but I can get used to it. Most laptops have it and use it as a selling point. They should offer non-matte and then sell the film as like an add on.
No, matte is a damn lifesaver in laptop.s
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4978570&CatId=4935
TD just listed the top model. Adding $500 for 256gb of SSD space is stupid on their part. I'll get a single 256gb model and stick a hybrid drive in from some place that won't rip me off.

Seems Asus are going with Apples upgrade price plan.
    
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