yes kamakazi i do my reaserch extensivly. For your information i have been looking at macs for 2 years now. And hobo i haven't met really anyone on this forum who loves unix much. Isn't it just command line after command line. Wow this is turning out to be an awesome battle. I hear things about people loving there macs. When you are on a mac you are part of this weird tip of clic where you are special in a world of windows. Same with Linux all the kids in my school that use linux have those tux t shirts they always where to show there pride for Linux.