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This site has a nice explanation of the changes the 5r brings compared to the 5n (to see if any of them are worthwhile for you):
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/dslrs/1294417/sony-nex-5r-review-hands-on

I think the biggest change is the new autofocus system (using both phase and contrast detection together). However, I haven't seen any reviews that discuss it in detail, so I have no idea how much of a difference in speed (if at all) there will be compared to the 5n.

There's also a new 16-50mm compact zoom lens coming out:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666487151#features
(if you want to get this then get it in a kit with the camera, or if a kit is not available buy the camera body only and lens separately).
Here's a size comparison with this lens on the NEX-6 compared to a similar lens on a Micro 4/3s body (Panasonic GX1, keep in mind the differences in sensor size):
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-nex-6/3

Have fun trying to decide from the myriad of camera options available today!
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This site has a nice explanation of the changes the 5r brings compared to the 5n (to see if any of them are worthwhile for you):
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/dslrs/1294417/sony-nex-5r-review-hands-on

I think the biggest change is the new autofocus system (using both phase and contrast detection together). However, I haven't seen any reviews that discuss it in detail, so I have no idea how much of a difference in speed (if at all) there will be compared to the 5n.

There's also a new 16-50mm compact zoom lens coming out:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666487151#features
(if you want to get this then get it in a kit with the camera, or if a kit is not available buy the camera body only and lens separately).
Here's a size comparison with this lens on the NEX-6 compared to a similar lens on a Micro 4/3s body (Panasonic GX1, keep in mind the differences in sensor size):
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-nex-6/3

Have fun trying to decide from the myriad of camera options available today!
Doesn't interest me over the 5N tbh.
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Still torn. Anything that might want me to take one over the others?
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sony's quality? but i still vote for a bigger bag+T4i
 
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Don't like the 450D much.
Any other suggestions, before I start narrowing down?

How can you not like a camera without trying it? The 450D smokes all of the 4/3r'ds and sony nex cameras that are being mentioned yet is much cheaper. You can get that with a kit lens, 55-200, 1.8 prime, and speedlite used for bouncing flash and get amazing photos all for well under $1,000. With just a $1,000 camera and no decent lenses or off camera flash your photos will only look marginally better than what a P&S is capable of.
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Size is quite important to me, I'd if I could get an identical DSLR and a 4/3/MILC and the MILC costed $200 more I would take the MILC..
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Size is quite important to me, I'd if I could get an identical DSLR and a 4/3/MILC and the MILC costed $200 more I would take the MILC..

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Size is quite important to me, I'd if I could get an identical DSLR and a 4/3/MILC and the MILC costed $200 more I would take the MILC..

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sony's quality? but i still vote for a bigger bag+T4i
It's not that.

I have shaky hands, and the lighter a camera is the more it helps.
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technically holding something heavier can help make the shakiness less apparent and more smoothed out. but nothing beats just using a tripod
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Size is quite important to me, I'd if I could get an identical DSLR and a 4/3/MILC and the MILC costed $200 more I would take the MILC..
An xsi or any entry level DSLR wont be much bigger than a mirrorless system. It's not like camcorders where you're going from say a small consumer camcorder to a prosumer 20 inch long camcorder.

Cameras are small in general. The extra quality that you get, larger lens selection, better low light, and RAW capabilities are worth the small increase in size alone. If you're that concerned about size that I'd suggest getting a Canon S95. The S95 isn't very expensive and is compact yet offers high quality image capability's and RAW. I doubt you'd see much of a difference between a micro 4/3rds and a S95 for internet and medium sized prints.
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