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9/8/12 at 9:45am

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A friend of mine wants to go full liquid with cpu-gpu-mb and even ram blocks, and on top of that he wants one of those 1080 massive rads. I told him it's a massive waste of money but he isn't listening to me so whatever

Do you guys thing a single D5 is enough to push all that stuff? I'm not sure about it and I told him he would probably need 2. Is that correct?

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9/8/12 at 9:47am

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9/8/12 at 9:49am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by selluminis

Amazing reply

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9/8/12 at 9:54am

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Not sure if 2 is required, but, it is always better to have two pumps for redundancy, in my opinion.

With the restriction you seem to be indicating, DDCs may be a better choice? Not sure, I am not what you would call a guru.
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Depending on how many blocks, I would say MCP35X2 is the way to go.

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i7 3930K @ 4.8Ghz	Asus Rampage 4 Extreme	EVGA GTX670 FTW 2GB	16GB G.Skill Ripjaws-Z @ DDR3-2248 9-10-9-26 1T
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Samsung 830 256GB SSD	WD10EZEX 1TB HDD	WD10EALX 1TB HDD	Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB
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WD3200AAKS 320GB HDD	LG/Hitachi Slim DVD-R/W	Custom MB-Backside VRM-sinks (Copper)	DD "Fill-Port Res" + Fill-Port Fitting (Red)
Cooling	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
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4x Koolance 120x25mm 2600rpm Fans	Comp/Rotary Fittings (BP/XSPC/Monsoon)	Primoflex Pro LRT - White (1/2x3/4)	3x NZXT RF-FX140LB 1-2krpm 98.3CFM Case Fans
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My Desk	GRADO RS1i Headphones	Grado PS1000 Headphones	Bitfenix Hydra Pro Fan Controller 5ch 30W/ch
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9/8/12 at 3:04pm

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I would suggest 1, becouse i am using a d5 with ek top now, going from:

500mm res>pump>cpu>mosfet 1>mosfet 2> mb block> gpu> 3 meter to rad> Rad (large 1 meter long AC rad with 18 pipes)>3 meter tube>res

Most of the 1080 rads are not very restrictive, and even i am using my pump on stand 1 only for the noise reduction.

My suggestion: 1 is enough.

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9/8/12 at 3:07pm

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Two pumps are always better, less noise, redundancy and piece of mind.

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Quote:

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Two pumps are always better, less noise, redundancy and piece of mind.

As i said, i am using my pump on the lowest rpm, so for the noise you dont have to do it. My rad is passive and i get with intel burn in test temps of 50c (stock i7 920) with 25 room temp.

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9/8/12 at 3:16pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincent198

As i said, i am using my pump on the lowest rpm, so for the noise you dont have to do it. My rad is passive and i get with intel burn in test temps of 50c (stock i7 920) with 25 room temp.

Key word, REDUNDANCY......just my 2 cents.

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9/8/12 at 7:01pm

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There's no way you can know until you've added up the restrictions of everything you are planning to run in series. You could be anywhere between being ok with a single D5 to needing 3 D5s or a couple MCP35X's. If everything is low restriction to average, then two D5s in series should be fine.

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