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Definitely go with Ubuntu if you're looking for a Windows replacement. It has sane defaults for most packages, but isn't as KISS and hacker-like as a lot of other editions.
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Originally Posted by CrazyHeaven View Post

I just had enough of this and it just isn't fun anymore. 28 updates for windows fresh install. 15 of those 28 failed. Why? I don't know. My last fresh install it all worked but this time it isn't. I did check my hard drive for errors but didn't find any. Not saying it isn't a error related to my hardware as it could be.

I'm the first one to admit that Windows has more than it's fair share of annoyances, but these problems you are having aren't the cause of Windows itself (nor do I think they are likely to be hardware).
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Turn on error logging in Win 7, get something useful and plug it into Google. The irony is that Ubuntu will have you "fighting against" Linux at least as much as you need to battle Windows, IME
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Turn on error logging in Win 7, get something useful and plug it into Google. The irony is that Ubuntu will have you "fighting against" Linux at least as much as you need to battle Windows, IME

that would be unity. try LMDE with cinnamon instead. or debian stable with gnome/xfce. doesn't get much easyer.
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I'm the first one to admit that Windows has more than it's fair share of annoyances, but these problems you are having aren't the cause of Windows itself (nor do I think they are likely to be hardware).

More often than not my problems are usually hardware related mixed in with window annoyances.
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Maybe you have a failing hard drive, bro.

That would be it. Failing hard drive. Found that out shortly after posting this. I have all my stuff backed up and was able to get everything going again in a hour.

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i don't know .. i would go quite that far. wine is like a bad girlfriend. occaisonally you get what you need, but day in and day out it's just a pain and a disappointment.
OP welcome to the club. if you ever _need to use something on windows, your best bet is to set it up as a VM within linux. windows as a VM removes a lot of MS's tyranny and gives you the control over it back. There's a thread in the parent forum here about passing a GPU directly to it so there's no FPS drop. definately the way forward thumb.gif

This is probably what I'm going to go with instead of Wine. Going to start with Ubuntu 12.04. I've used it briefly in the past. I really don't know why I waited so long to try this out.
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@CrazyHeaven:

I understand perfectly what you mean. I have used both Windows ands Linux (and other OSes too) is parallel since the nineties. In my experience the most recent versions of Windows are much less under friendly to power users than Linux.

My advice to you is to take your time and try a few different distributions, window managers etc. In Linux you usually have plenty of choice of how to accomplish what it is that you want to do.

I do think you stay away from Ubuntu though, that distribution attempts to copy some of the worst aspects of the Windows OSes.
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Hehe. Good luck wink.gif - I tried again Ubuntu 12.04 last week and .. well .. if you are frustrated with the clumsiness of windows installer you are just prescribing yourself an overdose of the similar medicine when going Linux. I mean Ubuntu and Linux is great if it does out of box what you need it to do - but as soon as you start installing anything that is not compiled exactly for that particular distro then all the fun starts. For example, I found out that Ubuntu 12.04 STILL does not support Estonian Electronic ID card properly - I know I can make it work, but it's a couple days of reading help and trying different crap, fixing stuff that gots broken during the trial and error, etc...

You will, most likely, get stuff working eventually if you are a patient person, lets just cross fingers that the next update to either to Wine or your distro does not break everything again wink.gif
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Hehe. Good luck wink.gif - I tried again Ubuntu 12.04 last week and .. well .. if you are frustrated with the clumsiness of windows installer you are just prescribing yourself an overdose of the similar medicine when going Linux. I mean Ubuntu and Linux is great if it does out of box what you need it to do - but as soon as you start installing anything that is not compiled exactly for that particular distro then all the fun starts. For example, I found out that Ubuntu 12.04 STILL does not support Estonian Electronic ID card properly - I know I can make it work, but it's a couple days of reading help and trying different crap, fixing stuff that gots broken during the trial and error, etc...
You will, most likely, get stuff working eventually if you are a patient person, lets just cross fingers that the next update to either to Wine or your distro does not break everything again wink.gif

This is why I feel that everything in the OP was contradictory.
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Hehe. Good luck wink.gif - I tried again Ubuntu 12.04 last week and .. well .. if you are frustrated with the clumsiness of windows installer you are just prescribing yourself an overdose of the similar medicine when going Linux. I mean Ubuntu and Linux is great if it does out of box what you need it to do - but as soon as you start installing anything that is not compiled exactly for that particular distro then all the fun starts. For example, I found out that Ubuntu 12.04 STILL does not support Estonian Electronic ID card properly - I know I can make it work, but it's a couple days of reading help and trying different crap, fixing stuff that gots broken during the trial and error, etc...
You will, most likely, get stuff working eventually if you are a patient person, lets just cross fingers that the next update to either to Wine or your distro does not break everything again wink.gif
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This is why I feel that everything in the OP was contradictory.

This is more of my fault than it is Windows. I've been working only in windows since the early 90's. I find myself getting bored of it and I want to work on something different. I've actually been enjoying running through Ubuntu 12.04. I plan to try out a few more different distro's later on in the week. I just want to explore each one before deciding which one I like best. I entered the PC world as a hobby that later followed me into the business world and gave me a label of being a pc guru by friends(ocn not included), family and co-workers. I miss doing the exploring I had to do back in ms-dos/95 and followed me into windows 98. XP made things easier and I enjoy that and followed them into windows vista and then 7. I noticed that I was fighting the new OS and changing things back into how they use to be because the newer easier to use interface was actually slowing me down and getting into the way.

Windows 8 is going after tablets. I like keeping my pc and my tablet completely separate. I never wanted to or wish to do any real work from a tablet. For work I use my phone and laptop and occasional my desktop since it is much faster at running larger task. The tablet is my go to device to relax and just enjoy. Still running the HP touchpad and still loving it to this day. Webos is the only OS I feel in love with right out the box. I also liked windows mobile. Android I didn't enjoy until I was rooted and started to play around in the dev section. I tried both the iphone and the ipad and even when jailbroken they were not made for me. Don't even get me started on the mac. The only thing I enjoyed about mac was how closely it resembled ubuntu.
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Hehe. Good luck wink.gif - I tried again Ubuntu 12.04 last week and .. well .. if you are frustrated with the clumsiness of windows installer you are just prescribing yourself an overdose of the similar medicine when going Linux. I mean Ubuntu and Linux is great if it does out of box what you need it to do - but as soon as you start installing anything that is not compiled exactly for that particular distro then all the fun starts. For example, I found out that Ubuntu 12.04 STILL does not support Estonian Electronic ID card properly - I know I can make it work, but it's a couple days of reading help and trying different crap, fixing stuff that gots broken during the trial and error, etc...
You will, most likely, get stuff working eventually if you are a patient person, lets just cross fingers that the next update to either to Wine or your distro does not break everything again wink.gif

This is why I feel that everything in the OP was contradictory.

Theres still bsod, random crashes, and virises. In anycase everyone should try linux, so it really doesn't matter why he is.
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