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you, my good sir, are illiterate

i think he's basically trying to say that bing sucks.

sometimes it gives me similar results to google, sometimes it is nowhere near as close. based on my experience with it, it seems like they do tend to favor some companies etc in a less objective way than google. for example, i find it hard to get bing to give me results for a product on ebay.
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I'm growing tired of reading through these posts about WP8 and Nokia. We can only speculate at this point what it will be like. I for one love my WP7 phone. I have used more smartphones than I really care to think about (WM5, Palm, Android, iOS, RIM, WM6, WP7 just to get started). For myself WP7 has been the easiest and most functional with Android coming a very close second. If you must know why it is because of the whole MS "ecosystem" or integrated services work wonderfully for me. Zune blows iTunes out of the water IMO. Connecting to my server is effortless. Bing maps are beautiful IMO (person with GIS/RS degree.) My school/work are run on MS systems of course. As you can see for me WP makes perfect sense.

MS has habit of doing a lot firsts for many things but they are really quite horrible at marketing some things (I think due to the fact they just expect everyone to come running to them like Windows and Office). Someone earlier mention installing apps through Chrome. Yep WP7 has been doing that since release along with being the first to support built-in wifi syncing. There are few features that aren't cross platform at this point. The only thing my WP7 phone doesn't do that I think it should especially considering the business side of things is built-in VPN support.

In the end can we stop whole which is better argument. I want to say something along the lines of needing a ruler but it would be quite rude I believe. I'm tired of reading useless comments (including my own) that really have nothing to do with the news articles. Seriously any of the major OS's can do anything you want and need it to. The question becomes what do you need it to do and what kind of look do you want. We are human and we have preferences and lets try to remember that fact and respect it as well.

End of my rant and adding to useless posts. I agree that Nokia should be offering more than just WP options. They've always made IMO beautiful and very sturdy devices. Although in the end Nokia isn't likely to go anywhere regardless of WP sales. They do make more than just phones remember (even if it is a large portion).
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Where is the deception?
Ahhh... here is actual deceptive!

You know the one that has the reflection of a videographer holding something that doesn't look like a Pureview Lumia 920.

It’s just TOO LATE that recorded the “OIS on” text in the video while Van, professional camera. No biker. No lumia! If They’re trying to tell us that they’re showing us how Optical Image Stabilization works on their new Lumia 920, but they’re filming from a van using a possible Nikon DSLR, things just lose credibility!

Nokia ADMITTED: This was not shot with a Lumia 920: [ link ] <~ there you go!

YOU are trying to insult our intelligence!?
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My understanding is that phone costs are not subsidized by the carriers in Europe. I see you're from Israel, so I guess that sucks for you. redface.gif Most phones would cost that much in the US if it weren't for the subsidies, but because of them we almost never see phone costs over $200.
What you mean is carrier contract not subsidization.

Newegg galaxy s3 unlocked is 590$. Outside US you can just add 100-150$ to this price due to taxes.
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I'm growing tired of reading through these posts about WP8 and Nokia. We can only speculate at this point what it will be like. I for one love my WP7 phone. I have used more smartphones than I really care to think about (WM5, Palm, Android, iOS, RIM, WM6, WP7 just to get started). For myself WP7 has been the easiest and most functional with Android coming a very close second. If you must know why it is because of the whole MS "ecosystem" or integrated services work wonderfully for me. Zune blows iTunes out of the water IMO. Connecting to my server is effortless. Bing maps are beautiful IMO (person with GIS/RS degree.) My school/work are run on MS systems of course. As you can see for me WP makes perfect sense.
MS has habit of doing a lot firsts for many things but they are really quite horrible at marketing some things (I think due to the fact they just expect everyone to come running to them like Windows and Office). Someone earlier mention installing apps through Chrome. Yep WP7 has been doing that since release along with being the first to support built-in wifi syncing. There are few features that aren't cross platform at this point. The only thing my WP7 phone doesn't do that I think it should especially considering the business side of things is built-in VPN support.
In the end can we stop whole which is better argument. I want to say something along the lines of needing a ruler but it would be quite rude I believe. I'm tired of reading useless comments (including my own) that really have nothing to do with the news articles. Seriously any of the major OS's can do anything you want and need it to. The question becomes what do you need it to do and what kind of look do you want. We are human and we have preferences and lets try to remember that fact and respect it as well.
End of my rant and adding to useless posts. I agree that Nokia should be offering more than just WP options. They've always made IMO beautiful and very sturdy devices. Although in the end Nokia isn't likely to go anywhere regardless of WP sales. They do make more than just phones remember (even if it is a large portion).

It does and doesn't have a VPN actually. You CAN connect to a business network when utilizing UAG, but UAG is $3500 per instance. It's also incredibly limited in it's functionality. Applications have to be published through the UAG portal for it to be accessible on the device.
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Do me a favor you android and iphone fanatics, pick up your phone and tell me what information your phone is displaying....

There is no true informative content on either of these OS's, ( android has some but to even utilize multiple apps widgets you really need a tablet).

I pick up my windows phone 7.5 and I see live tiles filled with info. Like all phones I see what calls, messages, and mail I have gotten, right. On windows phone though I see what my schedule is for the day, the actual weather and not just a picture of the sun, what notifications and new things are going on with friends. This is just the stock apps that come with the device, and the best thing is any app can utilize live tiles.

I am a firm believer in windows phone and windows 8 simply because of live tiles. This sole feature is what has made me switch from an iphone 4 to a windows phone 7.5 htc trophy.

Looking towards the new OS, being windows phone 8, I only have great things to say such as the new home screen that uses every pixel of space along with new resizeable tiles that let you decide what info is the most important to you. And to the people who say that there windows phone is slow, what the hell are you doing to your phone? My iphone 4 would slow down constantly but I literally have not had one problem with slowness or input lag.

Call me a MS fanboy but I really am a person that tries every OS, hear me out. I have a macbook pro with mountain lion bootcamped with windows 7, I used to have a iphone 4 before the pos cracked on me, and lastly I have a htc android tablet. I am just not getting where all this bashing is coming from...
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It does and doesn't have a VPN actually. You CAN connect to a business network when utilizing UAG, but UAG is $3500 per instance. It's also incredibly limited in it's functionality. Applications have to be published through the UAG portal for it to be accessible on the device.

Yes you can do that but it is nothing like the VPN support in older offerings of WM. I don't believe much has changed on that front in WP8 either though. In the end I'll gladly go without VPN support in lieu of other offerings, but that's just me.
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Yes you can do that but it is nothing like the VPN support in older offerings of WM. I don't believe much has changed on that front in WP8 either though. In the end I'll gladly go without VPN support in lieu of other offerings, but that's just me.

Honestly, I agree with you completely. There's nothing I really need from my internal home or even work network that I can't make public via other means. It's not like I need to do a file transfer TO MY PHONE when I have a perfectly good laptop with DirectAccess or other VPN. Very few people have the bandwidth to do anything interesting like stream videos by VPN.
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Honestly, I agree with you completely. There's nothing I really need from my internal home or even work network that I can't make public via other means. It's not like I need to do a file transfer TO MY PHONE when I have a perfectly good laptop with DirectAccess or other VPN. Very few people have the bandwidth to do anything interesting like stream videos by VPN.
There are plenty people who require access to their work network from their phones. Whether they actually need it or not is not something I can decide, especially when you're dealing with the President, Provost, and all their VPs. smile.gif
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There are plenty people who require access to their work network from their phones. Whether they actually need it or not is not something I can decide, especially when you're dealing with the President, Provost, and all their VPs. smile.gif

Besides email, what could they possibly be doing on their phones?????
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