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It's bad enough that the new Kindle Fire tablets – the revamped 1st-gen model and the three HD successors – will be ad-supported. No one really wants to see adverts on their screen when the gadget goes idle. Yet considering what the company has packed into the HD models, Amazon is seemingly looking for a little financial help from sponsors to keep the price point low. Consumers who don't want to deal with the annoyance can just stick with Google, Apple, or as Jane said on Thursday, import a new ad-free Kindle Fire internationally.

Now there's talk that the exclusive "cloud accelerated" Amazon Silk browser has received its own handful of improvements. These include faster page load speeds, better HTML5 support, an improved Start page, and loads more. It will also come packed with a feature called "Trending Now" that identifies which webpages are experiencing an unusual load of traffic, and notes that they may contain "noteworthy" information.

In other words, the new and improved Amazon Silk will now track user behavior more so than ever before.

Amazon Silk has essentially tracked user behavior since the launch of the original Kindle Fire last year – it just didn't publish the findings. As explained by Amazon, the browser would detect which website the user tended to visit more often, and then pre-cache the content in the cloud via Amazon Web Services and EC2. Thus, these most frequented sites would be delivered faster rather than pulling the information over and over from the website's original host.

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Edited by hour1702 - 9/9/12 at 9:55am
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Amazon will offer ad opt-out for the Fire HD at a cost of $15 (source: Engadget)
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They really did the ad-supported and ad-free versions in the wrong order.

If it was released like the original Kindle was (ad-free announced first, then special-offers edition following up), then people would be all happy that they could save $15 in place of a locked screensaver or something. Now they're complaining that they can't use the hardware they paid for.
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People will whine about anything...

People watch tv, movies in the theater, read books, and drive cars and see advertisements all day everyday. Everything is ad supported. Then you want to use your kindle... oh no there's an ad on the lock screen! What ever will I do! I could cry moar, or I could just unlock it and make it go away.

And the tracking? What doesn't track you? To live in this world you need to learn to not be so paranoid...


To anybody complaining about the ads: Quit being ridiculous.
 
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I agree completely with G3RG. Someone please tell me what the huge deal is.
 
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People will whine about anything...
People watch tv, movies in the theater, read books, and drive cars and see advertisements all day everyday. Everything is ad supported. Then you want to use your kindle... oh no there's an ad on the lock screen! What ever will I do! I could cry moar, or I could just unlock it and make it go away.
And the tracking? What doesn't track you? To live in this world you need to learn to not be so paranoid...
To anybody complaining about the ads: Quit being ridiculous.

This. Honestly...privacy doesn't exist...
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People will whine about anything...
People watch tv, movies in the theater, read books, and drive cars and see advertisements all day everyday. Everything is ad supported. Then you want to use your kindle... oh no there's an ad on the lock screen! What ever will I do! I could cry moar, or I could just unlock it and make it go away.
And the tracking? What doesn't track you? To live in this world you need to learn to not be so paranoid...
To anybody complaining about the ads: Quit being ridiculous.

You buy a new car, and it has a built in HUD that shows you an ad every-time you turn it on.

Or you can opt out (for that car you just bought) for $1000.

Sounds fair, right?
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You buy a new car, and it has a built in HUD that shows you an ad every-time you turn it on.

Or you can opt out (for that car you just bought) for $1000.

Sounds fair, right?
If the car is $1000 cheaper with the advertisments? Yes. tongue.gif
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If the car is $1000 cheaper with the advertisments? Yes. tongue.gif

That's just an excuse to charge more money. You wouldn't actually save $1000, they'd just be jacking up the MSRP for cars without ads another $1000 to make you think you're getting a deal. That's like selling a game and telling you to buy the DLC to finish the second half of the game.

The Kindle HD for $200 isn't being sold at a loss. They're just adding in ad spam to make more money while annoying the end user. The Nexus 7 has a faster CPU/GPU, GPS, Compass, NFC and doesn't use the slower outdated Gingerbread OS while still only being $200. Charging you $15 more to remove spam on your device, even when you're in offline mode isn't enjoyable.
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People will whine about anything...
People watch tv, movies in the theater, read books, and drive cars and see advertisements all day everyday. Everything is ad supported. Then you want to use your kindle... oh no there's an ad on the lock screen! What ever will I do! I could cry moar, or I could just unlock it and make it go away.
And the tracking? What doesn't track you? To live in this world you need to learn to not be so paranoid...
To anybody complaining about the ads: Quit being ridiculous.

For most people, who don't care about the ads and tracking, you're right, this isn't a big deal. But there are a lot of us who prefer not to see ads and be tracked.

I don't pay for or watch network TV anymore, my books don't have ads(?), and I live in a smaller city that doesn't have billboards or advertising. I've rooted my phone to remove tracking and in-app ads, I run an open-source browser with add-ons to block ads and cookies, I don't have a Facebook/Twitter/Myspace/Google+ account, I don't have membership cards for grocery stores and so on.

I someone cares enough, they'll spend the extra $15 or just not buy the device at all. But the blanket statement that "ads and tracking are in everything, and if you care, you are paranoid and ridiculous" is pretty short-sighted.
 
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