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Heres the deal:
I just got back from the GeForce 3 Lan in San Jose, very sweet time!, anyways I won the new 680i eVGA MoBo Socket 775 SLi and all that, plus an e-GeForce 7900 GT KO 256MB GDDR 3 Core 500 and Memory 750, and lastly a Targen 1100Watt PSU (Quad SLi ready ). Now that made me really happy but at the same time makes me wonder what to do with it all...

Current idea is to strip out my old system of Hard Drives, and DVD burner, and build a new system using my new MoBo and get a Conroe and also DDR2. So my main question to the experts is which of the Core 2 Duo CPU would you get?

With the understanding:
Main purpose is for Gaming (FPS and RTS -- CSS & Company of Heroes), and secondard purpose backing up(ripping) Movies and TV shows.
Buget is very limited, so no E6700 or X6800 even the E6600 is pushing it price wise.
I'm good with overclocking, not an expert, but pretty fearless.
I do plan to upgrade the cooling and thremal gresse.
And also I'm happy to wait for the new quad core for max performance.

Second question is what is some good DDR 2 800 memory 2 Gbs worth? Maybe just get 1 Gb for now and add some more later, I'm really out of money right now too many lan partys,

Lastly is a case:
Mid Tower, and at least space for 5 Hard Drives.
With these as my priorities:
1 Cooling
2 Usabitily
3 Price
4 Sweet Looks

Here is the specs on my old system (which I want to keep using as a backup gaming system): Key OLD = Stay on older system, New = Move to new system.
CPU- 3700+ AMD 2.4 Stock, OC to 2.64 - Old
MoBo- Asus K8N4-E Deluxe Socket 754 - Old
Memory- DDR 400 2 GB (2x512 Musken and 1 GB Stick) 2.5-7-3-3-6(Not sure on Timings) - Old
PSU - 510 Watt PC Power and Cooling Sli Ready - Old
GPU - XFX GeForce 6800 GT with Silencer Cooler and OC 20% - Old
Sound - SB Creative Audugy 2 ZS Gamer PCI - Not sure old/new
Eithernet - 1Gbit nic - Old
Hard Drives - 4x 250 GB WD Drives (Data) Raid 0 Sata 3.0Gb & IDE 320 GB WD (System) - New
Opitcal - NEC 16x DL DVD Burner IDE - OLD & TSST 18x DL DVD Burner IDE - New
Case - Modded Sun Beam Arlclic LCD - OLD

Thanks for you help...
post #2 of 10
LOL Sweet winnings man.

I would say keep your current case (Unless you think it looks dull or such), sound card and your harddrives.

I'll just add in that when moving to your new system, you are going to reinstall windows (Due to the change of your socket/chipset/motherboard)

If it's not pushing your budget extremely, get the E6600 and some nice air cooling.

If you want to save some money, just get the E6300 or E6400, because they're very cheap and overclocks somewhat like the other C2D's (Core 2 Duo)

If there is anything more, just ask.
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Yeap it was a great time, anyways, I'm Tired of all the time it takes to work on my old case, I have to take out the MoBo just to change the drives, and the cooling of the cool is not the best. Plus if I want to keep my old system running I will need another case anyways.

Is the E6600 really worth the extra cash? Is the larger L2 Memory the only differance?
Is the E6300 and E6300 the same core with just a different multiplier?
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Thank you for specifying the purpose of your computer system. It allows us to determine the recommended hardware far easier.

You are able to purchase the Core 2 Duo E6300, E6400 and E6600 with your current budget, correct? (with the E6600 stressing the budget slightly).

I would have to recommend the Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 if you have the funds to purchase it. It is very similar to the E6300 and E6400 Allendale cores expect that it has an additional 2048KB Shared ECC L2 cache added.

I have recommended this processor to you because you have specified that you wish to use this computer system to run 3D applications that require large memory stores.
Therefore cache is of fair importance with your scenario. The addition of 2MB L2 ECC cache will reduce the following issues:

Capacity Miss: The cache is not great enough to store all required information and data. Increasing the cache by this additional 2MB will reduce this issue.
Conflict Miss: The required information was replaced during a previous miss. Increasing the size of the cache will reduce the chance for conflict misses to occur as the cache is of greater size, so values can be stored simultaneously more effectively.

The Core 2 Duo E6600 is capable of decent overclocking potential. I have mine operating at 3.3GHz on stock processor voltage (B2 revision) as an example.

The only problem with increasing the cache is that there will be a greater cache delay (latency wait period). To compensate the processor has to increase the number of clock cycles allocated for cache access.
If you were not to play games the increased amount of cache would not entail any performance increase-ment due to the above fact. It will do so in games however

If you do not have the funds for an E6600 I would then suggest a E6400 due to it's superior overclock-ability with above average performance


I would suggest purchasing 2GB of system memory at DDR800 or higher (as you have suggested).
Please be aware that due to Intel Enhanced Memory Timings implemented with the Core 2 Duo you may be unable to run your memory modules at their stated latency periods.
Timings are more important with Core 2 Duo than with the Pentium 4 architecture. You will therefore require decent DDR2 to maximise performance.

I would perhaps suggest some Corsair XMS2-6400C4, 2GB worth of that memory should work well.
As you are on a budget 4-4-4-12 timings are acceptable for 800MHz. Increasing the voltage to these modules will make them much more stable, and may allow you to tighten the memory timings to CAS3 level.
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but pretty fearless.
uh oh weve got a new contestant

the_manual is da man

and impressive winnings by the way, that saved you some cash right there
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That must be around $700 you saved on a new system. Lucky b******.
    
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Thanks all for the input: as far as memory goes does any one know about these PNY Technologies, Inc.
PNY Verto 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail Timings 4-3-3-8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820178091

I was thinking about buying 1GB now and 1GB later.

And I still am looking for a case.

I plan to buy around The day after thanksgiving sale, and hopefully get everything a little cheaper, and because I should have a little money by then...
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This might be 'only' DDR2 667, but these sticks can be pushed hard. They actually have the same chips as many high-end DDR2 800 kits. It's their anniversary kit, so they want to show off a little bit Those should overclock past DDR2 900 speeds and possibly more.
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
This might be 'only' DDR2 667, but these sticks can be pushed hard. They actually have the same chips as many high-end DDR2 800 kits. It's their anniversary kit, so they want to show off a little bit Those should overclock past DDR2 900 speeds and possibly more.
You forgot to add link. So I'm assuming you meant these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148017
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Yes, that's the kit.. sorry 'bout that
    
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