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  • 34% (89)
    EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 22% (57)
    MSI Lightning Radeon HD 7970 3GB
  • 6% (16)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 36% (94)
    SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB
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post #121 of 356
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

Sleeping Dogs is a recent game which uses SSAA. SSAA provides the best possible image quality. you can see the benefits of the HD 7970's bandwidth when you try to max out settings. Within the next one year HD 7970's bandwidth will prove its worth for those who think Metro 2033 is just an exception. just wait and watch.

So SSAA is the thing now. Like this:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6025/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-catching-up-to-gtx-680/9

Bandwidth is such an easy factor to put emphasis on. It's a simple and single number, bigger is better. The thing is, it's way too easy. It might make or break a graphics card in the future, but it is far from clear. There are signs of the opposite happening, as well.
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If this were a graphics card beauty contest, the Lightning 7970 would win by a landslide. That card or the Lightning 680 would make any poorly cable managed case a 10 tongue.gif

to true lol, and seeing as i'm leaning towards the new MSI board it really makes me prefer that over the sapphire. But that is a very poor reason to pick one card over another...
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post #123 of 356
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So your going to stay with your "one number to rule them all" mindset where there is bandwidth and bandwidth alone to tell graphics cards apart? Fine, have it your way. I really do not agree. Not for today, not for the future. I clearly don't have your level of confidence in predicting the future.
Not sure what was the deal with your PhysX rant. I sure haven't made a single purchase based on it. Still, if you want it, there's only one place you'll get it. Nothing wrong with that, IMO.

When all other performance factors are equal or nearly equal, the single largest impact to overall performance is with the memory architecture, this isn't a big secret. It also isn't a secret, not if you have looked, that the next generation game engines are pushing the boundaries of what we know today.

Once again lending further to the reason that someone looking at a long term purchase would buy a 7970, increased VRAM, increased throughput. The rest of the architecture is more than capable, just like the GTX 680, now it is a matter of being ready for the future.

As for the Physx rant? Well, you mentioned Physx, I gave my two cents on the subject.
    
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Nice configuration there. you will be happy with it! good luck to you and have fun building your dream machine tongue.gif

Thank you I am very excited tbh its my first build. I will be posting unboxing photo's aswell as photos as i build and when i finish.

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what about the computer case? i might have missed a post if you talked about it.

Yeah i bought the HAF 932 full tower case 2 years ago when i was going to do a build. Family problems came up and i have to shelf for awhile. I am finally getting to do it so i'm trying to do it right. I will be using the same case i bought back then.
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post #125 of 356
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Really thought the lightning would get more love. I seen on other posts of people asking for cards, and guys would just come in and say... MSI lightning /thread lol.

I know we covered a fault with the lightning but can we go more in dept with the things the sapphire does well and the lightning and then kinda give me the downsides? Kinda like a compare contrast on the two cards if anyone is up for it.

Much appreciated

Also just got home so I'm reading up and will be +rep'n everyone that has provided info to the discussion.


Thank all
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post #126 of 356
I'd still go Lightning 7970. Understand that there is a good chance the Vapor X 7970 GHz Ed. will come come with locked voltage.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1714403

And as of the moment there is nothing you can do to change this but wait for an update to AB or Trixx but this is not a guarantee. Kepler chips are also voltage locked and will require fiddling with the bios to unlock it but once again this is not a guarantee. I've heard zero complaints about the Lightning coming with locked voltage which would be pretty silly on MSI's behalf. The Lightning also comes with a backplate that should help with card sagging. Don't know about you but sagging can be hideous but this obviously will be based on whether or not you care about aesthetics.
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I'd still go Lightning 7970. Understand that there is a good chance the Vapor X 7970 GHz Ed. will come come with locked voltage.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1714403
And as of the moment there is nothing you can do to change this but wait for an update to AB or Trixx but this is not a guarantee. Kepler chips are also voltage locked and will require fiddling with the bios to unlock it but once again this is not a guarantee. I've heard zero complaints about the Lightning coming with locked voltage which would be pretty silly on MSI's behalf. The Lightning also comes with a backplate that should help with card sagging. Don't know about you but sagging can be hideous but this obviously will be based on whether or not you care about aesthetics.

I care a little not enough to base my discussion on it. I do care about the over all life of the card. That is why i don't want to OC to much on any computer part, I'm scared I'll kill it or ware it out. So if that would mess the card up it would definitely be something i care about.
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post #128 of 356
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I care a little not enough to base my discussion on it. I do care about the over all life of the card. That is why i don't want to OC to much on any computer part, I'm scared I'll kill it or ware it out. So if that would mess the card up it would definitely be something i care about.

Both the Lightning and Vapor-X can handle longer term overclocking without decreasing lifespan, they were designed this way.
    
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post #129 of 356
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This statement is only half true...
The GTX 680 wins and the 7970 win, it just depends on which game you are playing, literally. They trade blows back and forth based on the game to the extent that in the end it is easy to say they are equal. Where the 7970 is going to pull ahead is in higher end overclocking, and longevity. A year or two from now when the 2GB 256-bit memory configuration on the GTX 680 starts chocking, the 7950 and 7970 will not be.

This I have seen confirmed. Around half of the major demand games, a 680 PE will match a 7970 reference (both OC'ed) or exceed. BUT, in the other half, the 7970 far exceeds the 680 by 10%+, as high as 25% more effective in some cases. On the slightly lower spectrum, the 680 seems to be more than sufficient, but if you want the best of the best, the 7970 seems to be the clear winner(atleast as of now and the near predicted future of gaming). As much as I love the GTX cards, I must tip my hat to NVidia.
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, but if you want the best of the best, the 7970 seems to be the clear winner(atleast as of now and the near predicted future of gaming). As much as I love the GTX cards, I must tip my hat to NVidia.


...ummm what?
Edited by Hyperion. - 9/12/12 at 7:05pm
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