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  • 34% (89)
    EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 22% (57)
    MSI Lightning Radeon HD 7970 3GB
  • 6% (16)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 36% (94)
    SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB
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post #171 of 356
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The key question really is what do you need your system and graphics to do? If you are a casual gamer then a GTX660 (non Ti) will suit your needs, as would a HD7850 or 7870. If you are looking to spend big right now and get maximum performance and lifespan from your investment then a 7950 or 7970 is the way to go thanks to its extra vRAM. If games can use 1600MB+ of vRAM right now, as is the case with Skyrim and HD texture mods, it really shows just how short the lifespan of the GTX680 could be.

Thanks that's a very good question and i really have not addressed it enough in full detail.

I am a hardcore gamer hands down. I have been so for as long as I can remember. I also have never owned a high end computer which as you can understand is a real problem for a person like me. I play a lot of games on my xbox 360 as my computer cant run anything really(lap top has a ATI 4250 GPU). So as the title says I'm trying to build my Dream PC. Its the PC i have been dreaming to have since i first started gaming online 10 years ago. So that is the spirit of the entire project that's why I'm very slow to cut corners or go with something i feel I might be cutting corners with. If i buy something just to save money I'll no doubt later on feel as if I cheated myself.

With that brief back story out of the way lets get to what really matters(what I intent to use this computer for). I do a bit of video editing time to time just messing around. also I convert video files and play in Photoshop but not enough to make that a real factor. The main thing is gaming hands down no question. Its a multi purpose computer but the main focus is not doubt on gaming, as I'm sure it is for most people here. I enjoy playing all types of games from, mmo's,single player rpg's, rts, and fps of course. I will admit i do prefer to play FPS's on my xbox but that might just be because i couldn't on my pc in the past. So the games I will be playing with this system!

1. Borderlands 2
2. Guild wars 2
3. farcry 3
4. skyrim
5.Arma 2(day Z)
6. Witcher 2

I will be playing a number of different games but those are the main ones I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to run all of these games on max settings (witcher 2 with out the game breaking one) and get at least 40+ FPS. I also would like this system to last at least 3-4 years. I know that's asking a lot but as close to that i can get as possible.
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With ubersampling disabled on Witcher 2 but everything else maxed a 680 will perform great in the above 40 fps range. Loaded it up right now with my 480s and was avging 60-70 with a dip to 40s when a bunch of stuff was going on.
For single monitor 1080p you should be good with 2gb gpu memory
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Originally Posted by Hyperion. View Post

Thanks that's a very good question and i really have not addressed it enough in full detail.
I am a hardcore gamer hands down. I have been so for as long as I can remember. I also have never owned a high end computer which as you can understand is a real problem for a person like me. I play a lot of games on my xbox 360 as my computer cant run anything really(lap top has a ATI 4250 GPU). So as the title says I'm trying to build my Dream PC. Its the PC i have been dreaming to have since i first started gaming online 10 years ago. So that is the spirit of the entire project that's why I'm very slow to cut corners or go with something i feel I might be cutting corners with. If i buy something just to save money I'll no doubt later on feel as if I cheated myself.
With that brief back story out of the way lets get to what really matters(what I intent to use this computer for). I do a bit of video editing time to time just messing around. also I convert video files and play in Photoshop but not enough to make that a real factor. The main thing is gaming hands down no question. Its a multi purpose computer but the main focus is not doubt on gaming, as I'm sure it is for most people here. I enjoy playing all types of games from, mmo's,single player rpg's, rts, and fps of course. I will admit i do prefer to play FPS's on my xbox but that might just be because i couldn't on my pc in the past. So the games I will be playing with this system!
1. Borderlands 2
2. Guild wars 2
3. farcry 3
4. skyrim
5.Arma 2(day Z)
6. Witcher 2
I will be playing a number of different games but those are the main ones I'm looking forward to. I want to be able to run all of these games on max settings (witcher 2 with out the game breaking one) and get at least 40+ FPS. I also would like this system to last at least 3-4 years. I know that's asking a lot but as close to that i can get as possible.

This gives much needed insight. Based on what you say here I can point you no further than my very own build (see sig). I built it to handle exactly the things you want your system to handle, of course there is a few modernisations to your build you should make compared to mine;

Get a 3770k CPU
Bigger HDD, possibly go RAID or grab a standard HDD and a SDD to use as just the OS drive.

I've been directly involved in making the UEFI flawless with the Asrock Extreme boards spanning P67, Z68 and Z77 so I can say with absolute certainty you will get few to zero problems with a Z77 Extreme6. Even if you do, drop me a line and I'll get you hooked up with a solution thumb.gif

You also need to add Metro 2033 to your gaming list as well as Stalker SoC so you can play my TK mod biggrin.gif
Edited by ketxxx - 9/13/12 at 5:39pm
post #174 of 356
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This gives much needed insight. Based on what you say here I can point you no further than my very own build (see sig). I built it to handle exactly the things you want your system to handle, of course there is a few modernisations to your build you should make compared to mine;
Get a 3770k CPU
Bigger HDD, possibly go RAID or grab a standard HDD and a SDD to use as just the OS drive.
I've been directly involved in making the UEFI flawless with the Asrock Extreme boards spanning P67, Z68 and Z77 so I can say with absolute certainty you will get few to zero problems with a Z77 Extreme6. Even if you do, drop me a line and I'll get you hooked up with a solution thumb.gif
You also need to add Metro 2033 to your gaming list as well as Stalker SoC so you can play my TK mod biggrin.gif

Thank you for the suggestions, I am going i5 do you think i should go i7?


Also I have been hearing alot of good talk about the 7970 but the 680 is winning in the poll. Can anyone post some upsides to going for the 680 over the 7970, or atleast some features that the 680 offers that the other card does not?

Also is that cooler on the evga good enough?
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I7 seems to be a waste of money as far as gaming is concerned from what I have read on here, Go for the I5
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I7 seems to be a waste of money as far as gaming is concerned from what I have read on here, Go for the I5

Yeah after posting that I really thought hard about it and i clearly would not need hyper threading. Is that the only thing that really sets the i5 and i7 apart?


The evga 680 and the 7970 are neck and neck now. As far as the boost goes on the 680 how well does that really work? Its suppose to give you more boost in games you have the power room. At the same time given you normal clocks even when it needs less power? This seems like a very smart technology but how useful is it? Also does it limit the OC of the card because of the built in boost?
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post #177 of 356
The 680 is a much simpler card to use. Kind of "set it and forget it" whereas the 7970 takes more time and skill to fine tune. The tradeoff is that you can get better clocks generally with the 7970 than the 680 due to voltage control. The 680 Classy can do voltage control with the EVBot but that's another $100. The MSI 680 Lightning can do voltage control with the original BIOS and would be my recommendation for a 680 if you go that route. It is expensive but you would have full PhysX support out of the box and wouldn't need to purchase a separate card to get it workking.

Btw, the 680 Lightning DOES have D/L DVI connectors unlike the 7970 Lightning so that's no issue...
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The 680 is a much simpler card to use. Kind of "set it and forget it" whereas the 7970 takes more time and skill to fine tune. The tradeoff is that you can get better clocks generally with the 7970 than the 680 due to voltage control. The 680 Classy can do voltage control with the EVBot but that's another $100. The MSI 680 Lightning can do voltage control with the original BIOS and would be my recommendation for a 680 if you go that route. It is expensive but you would have full PhysX support out of the box and wouldn't need to purchase a separate card to get it workking.
Btw, the 680 Lightning DOES have D/L DVI connectors unlike the 7970 Lightning so that's no issue...

Very Interesting

What i want to do is go ahead and list off a number of things i have heard 2 different sides of. I will list which side i heard more on and assume its true. Please let me know if the facts in this list are accurate or is in fact bad information.

Compare & Contrast

680
1. Comes with more in game features. examples- PhysX, Adaptive Vertical Sync, FXAA
1.1.The features lend themselves to the in game experience very well and that is the main focus.
2. Very quiet
3. Uses less power
4. FPS lock- Able to lock the frame rates to save power that isn't needed
5. Adjustable boost
6. Preforms slightly better on 1080p opposed to the 7970(5-10fps)
7. Better driver support

7970
1. Comes with with more out of game features. Example being app acceleration
2. Louder under load
3. Uses more power
4. Built in boost
5. Unlocked voltage for higher OC
6.Higher ram bus and higher bandwidth(more future proof)
7.Runs better at higher resolutions

Similarities
1. Both run almost identical in 1080p
2. Both can run any game out on 1080p with all maxed settings and receive 40+fps
3. Both have the brain power to invent skynet and take over the world when no ones watching.

Few questions I still have

1. Resell value? Will they both sell pretty well when the new cards come out. So I can have the choice to upgrade and not take a huge hit.
2. At slight overclocks are both equally stable or are crashes frequent with either card?
3. How are the shaders on both cards? I have a very old AMD card in my laptop and often I cant play games because of the shaders.


Thanks all !
Edited by Hyperion. - 9/14/12 at 9:05am
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i vote for 7970 from msi lightning series
    
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i vote for 7970 from msi lightning series
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