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  • 34% (89)
    EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 22% (57)
    MSI Lightning Radeon HD 7970 3GB
  • 6% (16)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 680 2GB
  • 36% (94)
    SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB
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post #201 of 356
You'll be fine with 2gb of vram at the res you'll be running
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post #202 of 356
going from 680 2gb to 680 4gb is dumb. it will only make a difference if you play on a multi monitor setup. even then the difference will be small. if you wanted more memory you could have got sapphire toxic edition 7970 with 6 gigs of vram.
    
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post #203 of 356
The 7970 is more future-proof (Bus, Vram, lots of OC headroom), but the 680 does have some nice features (PhysX, Boost). I would personally prefer the 7970.
Edited by Shimme - 9/14/12 at 10:05pm
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post #204 of 356
I'm team AMD this round of cards, a decent OC and you will be fine, especially if you're not going over 1080p single monitor. My vote goes for sapphire, people have been having a fair more bit of luck with the Sapphire's over the Lightnings too.
post #205 of 356
I really think this is one of the very best comparison threads we've seen for this generation. thumb.gif

2GB is absolutely fine for now and it will do FullHD without a problem for a long, long time. If you hit your VRAM limit, then turning down MSAA is going to help for sure. But there is a caveat there. MSAA seems to be fading out and post processing AA is coming in. If games start to take the VRAM headroom that has traditionally been there for MSAA and put it towards something else (like really high res textures) then sure enough turning down post processing AA won't help with getting rid of VRAM limitations.

What the future might bring is a vague argument. No one knows for sure. The thing is: Nvidia thinks 2GB on a 256-bit bus is enough for the foreseeable future. They might be wrong but then again they are the market leader of discrete graphics. I wouldn't underestimate their view.
Edited by specopsFI - 9/15/12 at 12:12am
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post #206 of 356
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The thing about AMD that scares me is the driver support. I know they are doing good on the drivers right now but like someone else said will they be supporting this cards drivers in 3-4 years? If they dont then that really takes away from its future proof. Also how is their driver support for mmo games that are less popular and not just the big single player titles they have to focus on? IMO if AMD had the driver support nvidia has, they would easily double their sales. If you think about the argument people have had for nvidia over amd all these years its always mainly been the drivers.
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post #207 of 356
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Originally Posted by Hyperion. View Post

The thing about AMD that scares me is the driver support. I know they are doing good on the drivers right now but like someone else said will they be supporting this cards drivers in 3-4 years? If they dont then that really takes away from its future proof. Also how is their driver support for mmo games that are less popular and not just the big single player titles they have to focus on? IMO if AMD had the driver support nvidia has, they would easily double their sales. If you think about the argument people have had for nvidia over amd all these years its always mainly been the drivers.


Future proofing is debatable and for the most part unnecessary and can be likened to doomsday shelters laughingsmiley.gif

The thing with drivers though is that it is heavily subjective. In my opinion, I think it'll be hit or miss no matter who you go with. I've owned Nvidia cards (560 Ti 448, 6600 GT, GT 540M, and 8800 GTS) and AMD cards (X800 GT, HD 7850, HD 7950, and HD 7970). I've owned many more generations of Nvidia cards than AMD and I've had no problems whatsoever other than with Optimus Technology with the 540M. I can also say the same about AMD as I've had zero problems. Games, applications, windows all run like butter.
post #208 of 356
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The thing about AMD that scares me is the driver support. I know they are doing good on the drivers right now but like someone else said will they be supporting this cards drivers in 3-4 years? If they dont then that really takes away from its future proof. Also how is their driver support for mmo games that are less popular and not just the big single player titles they have to focus on? IMO if AMD had the driver support nvidia has, they would easily double their sales. If you think about the argument people have had for nvidia over amd all these years its always mainly been the drivers.
The current catalyst drivers are for the 5000 series and up... so that is about 3 years of card drivers. Need more?
Then maybe you mean like a 12.6 CAT released two months ago for legacy cards? Then enjoy the following link.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx

They are working on getting their drivers better, hence, we've had an AMD rep (Thracks) that has actually been working a lot with the OCN AMD GPU forums a lot to get issues worked out, clarify a lot of things like the best way to install/uninstall drivers, etc. Reporting your problems helps the AMD team get better, if people just complain about issues, nothing gets done.

But I digress, this is my first AMD card and I'm loving it, never had any issues with my nVidia cards, and sure, finding the right driver for me before 12.7 was kind of annoying, but I got it figured out pretty easily. Took about 20 minutes of my time to get my system working perfectly.
post #209 of 356
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Future proofing is debatable and for the most part unnecessary and can be likened to doomsday shelters laughingsmiley.gif
The thing with drivers though is that it is heavily subjective. In my opinion, I think it'll be hit or miss no matter who you go with. I've owned Nvidia cards (560 Ti 448, 6600 GT, GT 540M, and 8800 GTS) and AMD cards (X800 GT, HD 7850, HD 7950, and HD 7970). I've owned many more generations of Nvidia cards than AMD and I've had no problems whatsoever other than with Optimus Technology with the 540M. I can also say the same about AMD as I've had zero problems. Games, applications, windows all run like butter.

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The current catalyst drivers are for the 5000 series and up... so that is about 3 years of card drivers. Need more?
Then maybe you mean like a 12.6 CAT released two months ago for legacy cards? Then enjoy the following link.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeonaiw-vista64.aspx
They are working on getting their drivers better, hence, we've had an AMD rep (Thracks) that has actually been working a lot with the OCN AMD GPU forums a lot to get issues worked out, clarify a lot of things like the best way to install/uninstall drivers, etc. Reporting your problems helps the AMD team get better, if people just complain about issues, nothing gets done.
But I digress, this is my first AMD card and I'm loving it, never had any issues with my nVidia cards, and sure, finding the right driver for me before 12.7 was kind of annoying, but I got it figured out pretty easily. Took about 20 minutes of my time to get my system working perfectly.

Great posts and very informative, Thank you both.

I would also like to know if any of your older AMD cards outlasted or lasted just as long as the Nvidia cards? Any cards stop working and so on?


I would like to go more into the driver/ software side of the cards. But watch this video and lets get into next gen games and what YOU think will be the big advancement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7JV-5a0Mdw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Ex-_rmGmA&feature=related

Doesn't the 7970 do better with Tessellation while the 680 does better with shaders? That new engine seems to be heavly focused on both. So which would impact the vram more harshly, and what do you think the norm in games coming down the road.

I would like to stress the fact that I understand its impossible to know whats going to happen. I'm just asking you to make a educated guess based on your years of gaming experience.
Edited by Hyperion. - 9/15/12 at 10:09am
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post #210 of 356
I haven't actually researched too much into the 6xx unless I'm defending a claim normally, but I do believe the 6xx series does better in BF3 and if you haven't bought BL2 yet, those are things to look into when choosing your card as well.
In terms of "Future proofing," I'd say there's a reason why they're upping the VRAM on cards, otherwise it's money that need not be spent. Or maybe that's me thinking practically and not market sense. rolleyes.gif
I haven't really kept an eye on my VRAM usage so I can't help you from personal experience on that one, and this is my (legitimate) first AMD card I've had. Previously I've owned an 8600 gts(XFX), 9800 GTX+ (I think PNY as well) , GTX 470 (PNY), Sapphire 6970 (to try out eyefinity for a month, then returned to buy the 7950 rolleyes.gif ), and now my 7950 Sapphire OC Edition.

In the end, there has to be a card that you think looks the prettiest, all of these cards are performers and no one can really deny that.
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