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There is definitely a numerical difference in benchmarks running faster ram; in my case, DDR3-1600 vs. DDR3-2400 OR 800MHz vs 1200MHz. But we all know that some benchmarks aren't 100% representative of real world performance. There may be a small performance gain with faster ram but it is not noticeable to justify the cost of some of these DDR3-2600+. Money being no object, I can see why an enthusiast would aim for the fastest ram available but realistically the gains are so small, it would be ridiculous to shell out green for something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST0B13015.

here is 45$ set capable of 8/16 Gb @2400 C10 (1.65v) lol
http://www.overclock.net/t/1268061/ocn-ram-addict-club-gallery/50#post_18057544
P.S there is also Samsung "green" for the same $
    
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They are guaranteed to run at 2400 with 1.65 volts with out adding any cooling?
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I bought some DDR3 Dominator GT's 1866 for £43 on Amazon ($69).

That's what I would recommend for gaming at least, over that, I don't think you'll notice much of a difference.
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They are guaranteed to run at 2400 with 1.65 volts with out adding any cooling?
no they are not "guaranteed to run at 2400".. but i'm pretty sure they will and no you absolutely don't need cooling @1.65V ,this are genuine generic (no XMP) CH9 Samsung ICs (some are HCH9 and some BCH9) just not binned
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Well I usually always buy whats the most popular and best rated and at the moment it's the

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 newegg best seller for the 1155 socket. It's cheap and really good. Thats how I bulid my rig with most popular components. I was thinking even just keeping my current Ripjaws 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 but I think I'll get a better noticedable performance with 1600 speed then I'l OC that to 1866 which from what I read anymore than that seems very negiable. Plus I think going from 4gb to 8gb should give me a extra boost to.

Does going from 4gb to 8gb give more of a boost in desktop day to day stuff or mostly just in gaming ? From what I've seen at newegg 8GB (2 x 4GB) is the way to go. thanks
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post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by coolhandluke41 View Post

here is 45$ set capable of 8/16 Gb @2400 C10 (1.65v) lol
http://www.overclock.net/t/1268061/ocn-ram-addict-club-gallery/50#post_18057544
P.S there is also Samsung "green" for the same $

Granted you can reach those speeds then I agree that that is a great value thumb.gif
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While I am on X79, I have to suggest the G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 2133cl9 which is available in 16GB (4x4) and 8GB (2x4) kits, is a step up from Ripjaws X, and has fantastic timings at 9-11-10-28 for out of the box RAM that is $120 for 16GB and warrantied to reach the advertised speeds. I am on TPU as well, and Cadaveca has gotten a random set of the same RAM to over 2400 with no voltage increase, as well as getting extremely low latencies of 8-9-8 @ 1866, 7-8-7 @ 1600 1.5v, and 6-7-6 @ 1333 1.4v, which shows how incredibly versatile the stuff is. I think that the Samsung memory is awesome, but there is no guarantee that you will reach any speeds other than what is listed, and while you're likely to hit at least 2133, you could possibly get stuck with a bad set and have no recourse.
Since price is a concern, I would recommend grabbing some of the G.Skill Ripjaws Z 2133cl9 as you are guaranteed to get memory capable of the advertised speeds and timings.
I am pretty sure that with both Sandy Bridge (+E) and Ivy Bridge, memory speed is generally more important than timings, but having high speed and tight timings is the best way to go, and G.Skill offers just that while even guaranteeing it. Unlike Corsair Dominator series, you don't have to pay 3-4 hundred to get fast, reliable RAM from G.Skill and the Ripjaws Z 2133cl9 actually uses the Samsung IMC, IIRC. Plus, it is really good looking memory and surprisingly low profile, enough that air cooler clearance should be no issue.
   
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post #28 of 28
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Raising RAM voltage, only increases the RAM Voltage. As such, it does not increase CPU temperatures at all.
What you are thinking of, is increasing IMC voltage, which would be either VCCIO / QPI on Intel, or CPU-NB on AMD. That's not RAM voltage, that's IMC voltage....which is a completely different story. And on Sandy Bridge and AMD, it doesn't raise the temperatures even 1*C that's noticeable. I can't speak for Ivy Bridge, but I can pretty safely assume the same is true.
The only voltage that REALLY adds heat to a CPU is going to be the vcore. The IMC voltage will "technically" raise power draw very slightly, and it will also "technically" raise up the CPU temperatures. But I have NEVER seen an IMC overclock raise the CPU temperature by even 1*C (I watch my temps closely).
One of the reviews for the 16 GB ripjaws z RAM you guys are talking about had the manufacturer's respond.
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Pros: Runs really fast, super easy to OC on my ASUS Rampage Extreme IV.

Cons: RAM fans are not good, they don't do anything for my temps and are not really fashioned to fit on any real MB. (see heat comment below, but I am not sure that is the RAM causing the problem - more likely the processor is just able to move more freely).

Other Thoughts: My CPU temps went from 38C with my old lousy RAM to 50C at idle with this RAM ... I think it is because it freed the machine up to move to a higher clock speed but not sure. Anyway machine is very warm with this RAM.

Manufacturer Response:
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Dear Customer

Thank you for your G.Skill purchase and review. Glad to hear the memory is working well in your ROG motherboard. Any RipJaws Z series memory is compatible, so you surely picked a perfect match. With regards to temperature, the memory controller is embedded in the CPU, so when you use such high performance memory, you will notice an increase in CPU temp even if the CPU frequency is default. As a result, for multi-channel and high frequency kits, we highly recommend an aftermarket CPU cooler to keep things cool. Good CPU coolers can be ~$30, and not only can it prolong lifespan of hardware by keeping things cooler, it also allows you the ability to overclock and push your system even further. Therefore, when purchasing such high performance parts, it is a no brainer to get an aftermarket CPU cooler. For any further questions or issues, please feel free to contact us directly.

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Perhaps the cooler that pioneeriscloud is using good enough so that when increase the RAM voltage, the heat increase doesn't show.
Edited by iEATu - 9/17/12 at 7:44pm
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