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post #51 of 68
9/11/12 at 6:08pm
Thunderbolt was envisioned with fibre channel, but intel found that could obtain the target 10Gb using copper alone, as I remember the discussion it seemed that they still intend to make it a fully fibre channel connection and have the methodology to acomplish this currently with a massive increase in throughput, but copper allowed them to get production ramped up faster.
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9/11/12 at 6:47pm
They need to do this for Macbooks.... I would ditch my sig rig for sure then...
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post #53 of 68
9/11/12 at 7:21pm
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They need to do this for Macbooks.... I would ditch my sig rig for sure then...

Same.
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post #54 of 68
9/11/12 at 9:01pm
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So you're telling me it's just going to plug in to a wall and draw 200 watts of power, while discharging 200 watts of heat, and that will be okay?

Nothing that draws 200 watts of power will output 200 watts of heat. A lot of that power would go towards calculations.
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post #55 of 68
9/11/12 at 9:21pm
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Nothing that draws 200 watts of power will output 200 watts of heat. A lot of that power would go towards calculations.

Electronics don't obey the laws of thermodynamics?
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9/11/12 at 9:25pm
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9/11/12 at 9:31pm
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Thunderbolt was envisioned with fibre channel, but intel found that could obtain the target 10Gb using copper alone, as I remember the discussion it seemed that they still intend to make it a fully fibre channel connection and have the methodology to acomplish this currently with a massive increase in throughput, but copper allowed them to get production ramped up faster.

You're right on the fact that they originally were going to use fiber optic cable, and then they switched to copper. However, this didn't impact performance at all. Copper does just as well, but with one disadvantage. Lengths over a certain distance show a dropoff in performance. The fibre optic thunderbolt cables are only useful for long distance (over a couple meters) connections, otherwise they don't have a speed advantage over copper. That's why Intel is making the copper cables first, since they get the same performance for a smaller price, and most early thunderbolt peripherals won't need long cables (monitors, eGPUs, storage bays, etc.)
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post #58 of 68
9/11/12 at 9:39pm
So basically, using the laptop only for it's CPU and as a desktop..........not even using the darn built in screen..

Absolutely pointless.
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post #59 of 68
9/11/12 at 9:51pm
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You're right on the fact that they originally were going to use fiber optic cable, and then they switched to copper. However, this didn't impact performance at all. Copper does just as well, but with one disadvantage. Lengths over a certain distance show a dropoff in performance. The fibre optic thunderbolt cables are only useful for long distance (over a couple meters) connections, otherwise they don't have a speed advantage over copper. That's why Intel is making the copper cables first, since they get the same performance for a smaller price, and most early thunderbolt peripherals won't need long cables (monitors, eGPUs, storage bays, etc.)
Optical cables allow for multiplexing of multiple data streams for higher throughput. (Different frequencies of light are non-interfering.) Copper can only ever handle one signal per cable. Optical beats copper in throughput and this is the real advantage of optical. The disadvantage is that you cannot carry electricity over light.
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So basically, using the laptop only for it's CPU and as a desktop..........not even using the darn built in screen..
Absolutely pointless.
Not if you think of this as a docking station for gaming/GPGPU.
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post #60 of 68
9/11/12 at 10:03pm
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They need to do this for Macbooks.... I would ditch my sig rig for sure then...
Thunderbolt was first licensed to apple by intel, so its possible you can get the t-bolt support for the macbook
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