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LOL
Thanks for the advice bro.
I think ill go for the safe and simple cpu water cooling instead of rigging up the whole thing.
Thanks ALOT everybody, I already have it ordered from the store.
Air is simple cooling
Water is not simple. it is still air cooling water, and water cooling cpu.

On air if a fan dies. cooler still cools. not as much but stil cools

On water when if the pump dies nothing cools.

And all the top air coolers cool better than H80.
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Air is simple cooling
Water is not simple. it is still air cooling water, and water cooling cpu.
On air if a fan dies. cooler still cools. not as much but stil cools
On water when if the pump dies nothing cools.
And all the top air coolers cool better than H80.

Air is simple and water is simple, the problems from each are different levels of difficulty.

With air you just replace a part, usually just the fan.
With water you have to diagnose, replace parts, sometimes more than one.

With the all in one water coolers such as the H80 you may not achieve the highest cooling performance of giant loud air coolers but you'll get darn close, and if the pump goes bad most newer motherboards will shut down the system. A board I have laying around at home screams if I have nothing plugged into the cpu fan port.

Point being, I think OP made a great choice given budget, performance both thermal and audible.

That being said everyone has an opinion.

In the future it would be cool to see links that provide OP more information regarding the line:
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And all the top air coolers cool better than H80.

The way you make things sound, might as well take out the antifreeze in my car and go back to belt driven fans and solid iron blocks for cooling.
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Air is simple and water is simple, the problems from each are different levels of difficulty.
With air you just replace a part, usually just the fan.
With water you have to diagnose, replace parts, sometimes more than one.
With the all in one water coolers such as the H80 you may not achieve the highest cooling performance of giant loud air coolers but you'll get darn close, and if the pump goes bad most newer motherboards will shut down the system. A board I have laying around at home screams if I have nothing plugged into the cpu fan port.
Point being, I think OP made a great choice given budget, performance both thermal and audible.
That being said everyone has an opinion.
In the future it would be cool to see links that provide OP more information regarding the line:
The way you make things sound, might as well take out the antifreeze in my car and go back to belt driven fans and solid iron blocks for cooling.

let me tell you a few facts:

1.- not a single "giant air coolers" its louder than ANY CLC.. specially corsair/antec units.. NONE

2.- practically every single top end "giant air cooler" (Phanteks Thermalright, Noctua) OUTPEFORM any CLC system from antec/corsair in both temps AND noise.. except the H100 wich can get a couple degrees better with a TON MORE NOISE.. and that is in stock form, not even counting aftermarket fans

3.- Every single mounting system from the top 3 "giant air coolers" that i mentioned are top notch, you can forget "motherboard" strain.. its not gona break in half, stop dreaming, it is NOT going to happen.. i have 1 of these GIANT MOBO BREAKER cooler and i move my PC AT LEAST 2 times a week with road trips in not exactly the best road you can imagine.. not a single problem, ever



when a supposed "Water cooling" kit/unit or whatever CAN NOT outpeform a big ass giant air cooler in noise OR peformance OR features OR realiability OR anything... those "water cooling" kits are not worth it, plain and simple thumb.gif
Edited by HAVO - 9/17/12 at 10:43am
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DELETE sorry
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Air is simple and water is simple, the problems from each are different levels of difficulty.
Then you say
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With air you just replace a part, usually just the fan.
With water you have to diagnose, replace parts, sometimes more than one.
Air is simpler than water.
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With the all in one water coolers such as the H80 you may not achieve the highest cooling performance of giant loud air coolers but you'll get darn close,.
Same cooling on top air is quiet than H80 / H100.
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and if the pump goes bad most newer motherboards will shut down the system. A board I have laying around at home screams if I have nothing plugged into the cpu fan port.
Yes, when pump fails you have no simple way to keep your system running.
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Point being, I think OP made a great choice given budget, performance both thermal and audible.
Yes they did.. and not a single mention of water in their OP.
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In the future it would be cool to see links that provide OP more information regarding the line:
Below 200w air is does great... Not many of us push more than 200w at our CPU\
http://www.thelab.gr/heatsinks-coolers-watercooling-reviews/cpu-cooler-review-database-89014.html

Review of H100 / SA SB-E / SA SB-E Extreme
http://www.thermalright.de/CPU+Kuehler/Intel+LGA1155%252F1156/Thermalright/artikel/Thermalright+Silver+Arrow+SB-E+Extreme.html

vortex is good
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/alpenfoehn_k2_cpu_cooler_revisited,10.html

Cooler sound clips
http://www.hardwaremax.net/reviews/kuehler/488-test-thermalright-archon-sb-e.html?showall=0&start=6

Another great sourse.
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/category.php?categoryid=30
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The way you make things sound, might as well take out the antifreeze in my car and go back to belt driven fans for cooling.
That was the good old dependable VW Bug and Transporters of yesteryear. And yes, that was what I owned. thumb.gif
Edited by doyll - 9/17/12 at 10:52am
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Shiznett

I don't know why I'm laughing so hard.
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Beware that the CNPS12X has clearance issues directly related to X79 boards.

I think this video covers it but just do a Google search and you'll find a number of threads on this problem. On the positive side, its performance is about equal to an NH-D14.
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DELETE sorry

We often need to hand feed so they can understand.biggrin.gif
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We often need to hand feed so they can understand.biggrin.gif

Soo true.. practice beats theory all the time thumb.gif
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practice beats theory all the time thumb.gif

Too true. theory is great. In theory bigger is better. and also in practice.

Too often the advertising conglomerate.. and sadly including some reviewers.. could care less about really tell or finding the truth. The only things on their bottom is money, fame and power. And often they know very little about how it all really works or how to spot abnormalities in their results... and if they to spot them they either toute them or hide them. "The red cooler was 3c better than the blue cooler" kind of things.. Never taking into account reasonable error due to manufacturing runs,... and often not even keeping track of a base line temperature. rolleyes.gif There's a review out there right now on a tretailer's forum where they gave a member one each of all their TIM products to test... he kept no ambient temp. for baseline. When asked about ambient during tests his reply was "The results were all gathered later at evening/night and on cool days, I avoided the four day heatwave we have had this summer". He tested several TIMs in an evening, etc. When asked about curing time his reply was "I have had these pastes for a month, so they each had enough time to cure, some (such as the Gelid GC says it doesn't even need curing)". It's tagged at top of their cooling forum. rolleyes.gif
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