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It won't be for long, HTC and Samsung are going to rip it to shreds....

The iPad already has 4G, and they haven't done anything yet. I highly doubt they are going to do anything now.
They'd rather spend LESS legal fees joining it into 1 lawsuit,
post #392 of 934
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So
- Its not the lightest
- Its not the thinnest
- Its screen is small
- Its OS is heavily restricted
- Your old gadgets won't work with it
- The screen resolution is below the competitions
- It doesn't really do anything the previous flagship can't
- It's made of glass
- It's fast but will be out powered soon enough
- iOS6 is still behind Android in most regards
Am I missing anything? There's not enough of a reason to move from a 4S to the 5

LTE sounds like the big reason to move, but if I remember correctly, Samsung and other patent holders will eat Apple's lunch very soon for not seeking licenses for their tech. In other words, the iPhone5 is going to be a bloodbath for Apple... and not in a good way.

  • The screen is still sub 720P (which is basically a standard now)
  • The phone is still too small (4.3-4.7" is the sweet spot IMO)
  • No "breathtaking" new features (The iPhone 4 had a dazzling screen, this one is just an evolution of that design.)
  • Battery-life is only "good"
  • It's not the thinnest smartphone
  • It's not the lightest smartphone
  • It doesn't look distinctly different from the 4(S).


I'm trying really hard to come up with a reason that I would want to buy this phone over a competing Android/WP device, and I just can't find it. There really is no good reason to buy this outside of already having bought into the iOS ecosystem with previous devices.

The only thing that is truly good about it is that this time, Apple doesn't have an exclusive deal with AT&T, so the phone will be on most carriers from the get-go. However, since I'm not even remotely interested in purchasing this phone, that's a moot point.

From what I can see, this phone goes toe-to-toe with the Galaxy S3, but it does not beat it by any stretch of the imagination. Sure the CPU/GPU is faster (on paper), but the GS3 has a bigger screen, and more pixel real-estate @ full 720P resolution.



Apple can't ride this wave forever, and it looks like the iPhone 4(S) might have been the peak of their time in the mobile industry. The iPhone 5 looks good, but it isn't even remotely close to the jump the iP4 was. So lets wait and see what reviewers think about it (they will probably gush about it just because it's the new iPhone), but honestly, the iP5 is passable.
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I'll give a different perspective then, I was an iPhone 4 user and I have to say had I actually waited for the Apple announcement... I'd be buying a Galaxy Nexus or S3 anyways... (Which many of you know, I did in fact buy my Galaxy Nexus a few months ago..been loving it since)

I just dont see anything about it that the competition isnt already doing anymore... a lot of the stuff Apple's announced is sadly them playing "Lets Catch Up To Android" instead of actually being innovative about anything.. Faster processor sounds probubly on the level of the S4 used in most of the new Android sets, 4.0" screen is another "catch up to android" thing since most android sets use 4.0"+ screens these days, LTE has been in other OSes for a while now, although i will counter that by pointing out most people dont even have LTE now (It was just switched on where I live last month or so..)

Well ok, Apples being innovative about one thing, introducing new "standards" like Nano-SIM and Lightning which now means you have to go buy alllll new accessories for your phone or spend $30 on an adapter to make them work... instead of just adhering to standards like using Micro-USB and Bluetooth for audio docks instead... Also the screen aspect ratio is -what- now? All they did was add another line of icons.. Not entirely sure but i think that means im going to have big black bars whenever i watch video on it.. I didnt pay to get a bigger screen just to fill it with black bars all the time...

And for the record, That actually kinda makes me mad, I almost wanted part of myself to sit there and go "Darn thats really neat I wish I waited for the iPhone" because thats what new products should do in my opinion, they should make you want them.. the iPhone however just made me go "Well im happy i bought and have been enjoying my Nexus for the last few months then"
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I'd just like to take a moment and say: Holy crap.
And no I'm not talking about the iPhone.

That's nothing tongue.gif

 
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As a programmer, you should know that it's not just black and white like that.
I remember in 2007 deciding on a CPU, I had the choice between the Q6600 and the E8400, I could have two more cores, or two less but faster cores. If you look at benchmarks from back then, the E8400 won in most benchmarks, except the ones that were highly threaded. Those were benchmarks running on an OS that were running other things as well. Bottom line, unless the OS is swamped by too many other processes (which iOS prevents currently), then faster cores will be more beneficial than adding more cores. With more cores the load is spread out more evenly, but if a two-core processor doesn't have its existing cores near 100% load, then it should have plenty of time to switch to other processes and update them.
Regardless, benchmarks will be out soon I'm sure, comparing quad-core A9s with the dual-core A15.
Read the source, you'd have to be completely oblivious to believe that. Please quit trolling the thread.
It disappoints me how close-minded OCN members are about technology. Let me make this a simple and clear as possible: You don't have to have the best hardware, or even the best software to be the most profitable.
Apple knows how to run a business, knows how to gain customer loyalty, knows how to make a large profit off of their devices, knows how to give a good presentation to get the average user excited about their products. Every post in this thread about "Oh, the phone is nothing special because other phones....blah blah blah", means nothing in the big picture. 99% of people don't care, and will be perfectly happy with the phone, and it shows in the number of iPhones that Apple sells. Yes, there are other devices out there that may have better hardware in one way or another, and no, it won't really affect iPhone sales in any significant way.

Right but knowing how many quad core phones there now exist in the Android space (20 million GS3's in 100 days and lord knows how many quad core HTC One X's). It makes perfect sense to me that apps will be optimised for this in good time. Also, all early benchmarks for these show the quad core A9 coming just above the Krait CPU's which have a higher IPC and are better clock for clock (core for core) but the combination of all cores is enough to best them.

Also, I wonder where those same dual core CPU's would come now against those exact same CPU's in modern games now they're more multi-threaded?
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Hopefully all shipments get held at the border as Apple has not licensed the LTE technology they are incorporating in the phone. Sweet justice.
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Screenshot-2012-09-12_13.20.03.jpg
100 Mbps LTE? Yeah...no.
There's no way a cellular data connection is more than five times as fast as the internet I pay $60 for every month

its the theoretical limit, LTE is theoretically capable of 100mbps but in practice you're looking at 30-40mbps at best right now
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LTE sounds like the big reason to move, but if I remember correctly, Samsung and other patent holders will eat Apple's lunch very soon for not seeking licenses for their tech. In other words, the iPhone5 is going to be a bloodbath for Apple... and not in a good way.
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Just wondering got a link to that?
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Just wondering got a link to that?

http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-to-sue-apple-over-4g-lte-in-iphone-5-7000004015/

Enjoy.
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I kinda hope this happens smile.gif
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