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Apple's products just keep growing...

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So far what i have gotten from this thread is no matter what mediocre product apple puts out, the fanboys will defend it to death.

And no matter how well it sells and the even if the general public loves it anyway, the Android fanboys will continue to hate it.

Bottom line: OCN members, by and large, seem to know next to nothing about how business works. You don't simply make the most money by making phones with the fastest CPU, GPU, or most pixels on the screen. Apple has done that in the past, but those things aren't what got them where they are today, it takes much more than just hardware. A few years ago about 80% of my friends owned Android phones. Today, every single one owns an iPhone. The iPhone isn't just about hardware, it's about hardware melded with an OS that does what you need it to do, and makes it easy for the consumer. The Android OS is getting better though, which is good. Apple has also done very well at not fragmenting their market too much, so there are a lot more apps in their market, and iOS apps are 3x as profitable as the same ones sold for Android. The Android market is horribly fragmented by the large amount of hardware variation.

It's obvious that Apple is doing something right with their hardware releases, and they know something the Android fanboys on here don't. They didn't end up the most profitable corporation in history by accident.

My personal opinion: I think Android phones are just fine, but there's nothing compelling to get me to leave my iPhone behind and all of my apps.
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^ Very well said
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Originally Posted by Ksireaper View Post

So far what i have gotten from this thread is no matter what mediocre product apple puts out, the fanboys will defend it to death.

And no matter how well it sells and the even if the general public loves it anyway, the Android fanboys will continue to hate it.

Bottom line: OCN members, by and large, seem to know next to nothing about how business works. You don't simply make the most money by making phones with the fastest CPU, GPU, or most pixels on the screen. Apple has done that in the past, but those things aren't what got them where they are today, it takes much more than just hardware. A few years ago about 80% of my friends owned Android phones. Today, every single one owns an iPhone. The iPhone isn't just about hardware, it's about hardware melded with an OS that does what you need it to do, and makes it easy for the consumer. The Android OS is getting better though, which is good. Apple has also done very well at not fragmenting their market too much, so there are a lot more apps in their market, and iOS apps are 3x as profitable as the same ones sold for Android. The Android market is horribly fragmented by the large amount of hardware variation.

It's obvious that Apple is doing something right with their hardware releases, and they know something the Android fanboys on here don't. They didn't end up the most profitable corporation in history by accident.

My personal opinion: I think Android phones are just fine, but there's nothing compelling to get me to leave my iPhone behind and all of my apps.

+1

The application ecosystem is the exact reason why I haven't purchased any apple phones thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post

And no matter how well it sells and the even if the general public loves it anyway, the Android fanboys will continue to hate it.
Bottom line: OCN members, by and large, seem to know next to nothing about how business works. You don't simply make the most money by making phones with the fastest CPU, GPU, or most pixels on the screen. Apple has done that in the past, but those things aren't what got them where they are today, it takes much more than just hardware. A few years ago about 80% of my friends owned Android phones. Today, every single one owns an iPhone. The iPhone isn't just about hardware, it's about hardware melded with an OS that does what you need it to do, and makes it easy for the consumer. The Android OS is getting better though, which is good. Apple has also done very well at not fragmenting their market too much, so there are a lot more apps in their market, and iOS apps are 3x as profitable as the same ones sold for Android. The Android market is horribly fragmented by the large amount of hardware variation.
It's obvious that Apple is doing something right with their hardware releases, and they know something the Android fanboys on here don't. They didn't end up the most profitable corporation in history by accident.
My personal opinion: I think Android phones are just fine, but there's nothing compelling to get me to leave my iPhone behind and all of my apps.

You don't have to be an Android fanboy to hate Apple or their products.

Infact, the only reason I even use Android phones is because its basically the only alternative to Apples offering.
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You don't have to be an android fanboy to hate Apple or their products.

This.

I'm considering a windows phone for my next device, and the new luminas are making a mighty fine argument.
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This.
I'm considering a windows phone for my next device, and the new luminas are making a mighty fine argument.

Same here, which is something that's even surprising to myself.

iProducts are like the Steam of mobile phones imo.

Sure its user friendly and convenient etc etc etc, but once you're there or make any kind of solid investment, you're stuck there unless you want to lose it. Even if you see another product that has many features you want.

When the simple thought of using another product brings to mind the word "inconvenience" not because of the new products downfall, but because of the old ones unwillingness to give you freedom, I'll happily give away any "convenience".
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You don't have to be an Android fanboy to hate Apple or their products.
Infact, the only reason I even use Android phones is because its basically the only alternative to Apples offering.

I'm not an android fanboy, I don't even have an android product. My phone is an iphone. Rest assured, I know 1 person never makes a difference but I cannot support apple because their litigious ways are downright ridiculous.

Don't take my word for it, even Steve Wozniak disagrees with the Apple/Samsung lawsuit. That should tell you something.
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Same here, which is something that's even surprising to myself.
iProducts are like the Steam of mobile phones imo.
Sure its user friendly and convenient etc etc etc, but once you're there or make any kind of solid investment, you're stuck there unless you want to lose it. Even if you see another product that has many features you want.
When the simple thought of using another product brings to mind the word "inconvenience" not because of the new products downfall, but because of the old ones unwillingness to give you freedom, I'll happily give away any "convenience".

Great point. It would be beneficial to all if developers that has the same application on all platforms has a system that was buy for 1 buy for all, it would also prevent this "great wall of china" syndrome.

The only thing I'm waiting on for WP is some modability, and the platform is still relatively new, and I don't think I'd be able to use my 100's of free amazon apps (1 free app a day FTW some gems have been found) on WP. I haven't even paid anything for these applications and it's still a point with purchasing a new phone. I've got my 7+ though, so I'd just have to get used to my phone being primary a phone again...

Choice choices... which is why I stuck with my TP2 (I love HTC build quality) for 3+ years biggrin.gif.
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I'm not an android fanboy, I don't even have an android product. My phone is an iphone. Rest assured, I know 1 person never makes a difference but I cannot support apple because their litigious ways are downright ridiculous.
Don't take my word for it, even Steve Wozniak disagrees with the Apple/Samsung lawsuit. That should tell you something.

The 10's of thousands of fanoids around the interwebs don't even make a dent smile.gif.

It's rabid on both sides. How dare you not be a fan(boy)! lachen.gif
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Fanboyism literally makes the (consumer market) world go round.
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