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Unless there are any more smartphones with the 4" form factor that aren't old and Cspire gets them. I'll be going the Iphone 5 rout. Though i don't use many apps i'll still be losing my ballistic app i have on my android, which is bothersome because it's pricey. I guess i'm behind times still rocking a Galaxy S, it's showing it's age. The Iphone 5 should be a more than suitable upgrade.
Anyone link to whether the A6 was duel or quad?

There's quite a few, Sony do a few 4" phones with full 1280x1080 display.

Intels Android powered phone runs a 4" screen and is quite frankly, the best CPU in any mobile phone, it's a single core Atom with HT and it smacks dual cores all over the place and bangs on the doors of quad cores, can't wait for the dual core version.

Tbh I've used 4", 4.3" and 4.8" android phones and I do think that 4.8" is a it on the big side but I also think that 4" now is too small, 4.3" is the best screen size for a phone, you get excellent viewing and the screen can be put into tiny chassis.
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What can you do on an Android that you can't do on iOS? We can download and upload in the background, while listening to music, and playing a game. What else can be done in the background on Android?

Run a full Linux ARMEL distro in the background? Utilise four cores? Run widgets?
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What can you do on an Android that you can't do on iOS? We can download and upload in the background, while listening to music, and playing a game. What else can be done in the background on Android?

Run a full Linux ARMEL distro in the background? Utilise four cores? Run widgets?
ARMEL?
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Run widgets?

Wow widgets. That's pretty badass. gunner.gif

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ARMEL?

http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/

I did a video of it here:

It's significantly faster now they implemented a swap file, also, now supports two cores. The devs have started a phone fund to get their hands on a quad and then they'll work on that. Not as tight as the official Ubuntu project Canonical are working on, but still good.
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Wow widgets. That's pretty badass. gunner.gif
I'm sure they're probably going to be the next revolutionary thing in the iOS update.
Edited by Rubers - 9/15/12 at 4:47am
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Ah, looks awesome.
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It's irrelevant. No other smartphone has a GPU even remotely as powerful as the SGX543MP4.

You said it was "ahead of the curve" but it uses tech that's already on the market. Sure, no other smartphone has that GPU (is it even 100% confirmed to have this GPU?) but it'd still be cheaper to get an S3, a PS Vita and a 64GB Micro SDHC card. wink.gif

Ahead of the curve, as I said, would be having new stuff never seen before that sets the market demand

Except the Vita won't have the same games as the iPhone (I'd actually argue apart from a handful, it'd be worse considering the amount of emulators any modern phone has) and a PS Vita + SGS3 take up a lot more room than a single iPhone 5, stop clutching at straws and please admit Apple have released a decent product, it's the first A15 based phone too and is definitely ahead of the curve, saying it's not is like arguing that those laptops with two screens aren't innovative at all because they just use off the shelf parts.
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I thought S4 was a customised A15 based on the A15 blueprints?

Yeah, iirc it was slightly slower though.
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You have an excellent point. If only Apple's marketing used the term "evolution". thumb.gif

It has become a "cool" thing to bash Apple here at OCN for even the smallest of reasons. Samsung phones also don't change drastically in looks every year, but no one looks at that obviously. Oh the hipocrisy. Talking with an android fanboy is like talking with a stone really.

It's bad on both sides, you have 3-4 posters who are actually unbiased, 1-2 Apple fanboys and a crowd of Android fanboys. (And the obligatory WP fanboy)
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It has become a "cool" thing to bash Apple here at OCN for even the smallest of reasons. Samsung phones also don't change drastically in looks every year, but no one looks at that obviously. Oh the hipocrisy. Talking with an android fanboy is like talking with a stone really.

A form of psychological projection, eh? What a white knight you are!

I don't appreciate the insinuation that I am a fanboy. I do too much research to be a fanboy.

All the research in the world doesn't prevent an already biased mind.

For the record, I do believe that Apple's patents shouldn't be valid and I won't be buying the iPhone 5 (4" screen is way too small) but I figured I'd point this out.
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There's a few different SoC configurations for the A15, so they're not all the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A15_MPCore

This, it's not like an i7; think of it more as Intel making the i7 then selling the design to Samsung, AMD, IBM, etc.

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What can you do on an Android that you can't do on iOS? We can download and upload in the background, while listening to music, and playing a game. What else can be done in the background on Android?

Run a full Linux ARMEL distro in the background? Utilise four cores? Run widgets?

Why would I run a full Linux distro on a phone? I have more than enough spare computer hardware over 10x faster to do that.

Only the most hardcore Android users would even come close to actually needing 4 cores in a phone, easily 99.9% will never notice the difference between a 1.2Ghz quad and a 1.2Ghz dual.

Widgets? A real argument against iOS.
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I try not to be too biased but I admit I have a small bias towards Android.

It's not confirmed to have A15s, and if it does, it isn't the first one. Look at the Oppo finder.
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Except the Vita won't have the same games as the iPhone (I'd actually argue apart from a handful, it'd be worse considering the amount of emulators any modern phone has) and a PS Vita + SGS3 take up a lot more room than a single iPhone 5, stop clutching at straws and please admit Apple have released a decent product, it's the first A15 based phone too and is definitely ahead of the curve, saying it's not is like arguing that those laptops with two screens aren't innovative at all because they just use off the shelf parts.
Yeah, iirc it was slightly slower though.
It's bad on both sides, you have 3-4 posters who are actually unbiased, 1-2 Apple fanboys and a crowd of Android fanboys. (And the obligatory WP fanboy)
All the research in the world doesn't prevent an already biased mind.
For the record, I do believe that Apple's patents shouldn't be valid and I won't be buying the iPhone 5 (4" screen is way too small) but I figured I'd point this out.
This, it's not like an i7; think of it more as Intel making the i7 then selling the design to Samsung, AMD, IBM, etc.
Why would I run a full Linux distro on a phone? I have more than enough spare computer hardware over 10x faster to do that.
Only the most hardcore Android users would even come close to actually needing 4 cores in a phone, easily 99.9% will never notice the difference between a 1.2Ghz quad and a 1.2Ghz dual.
Widgets? A real argument against iOS.

Lol, the hardware is still rumour and unconfirmed. No, Apple haven't released a good phone, they're catching up to existing features, and there's supposedly a Chinese phone out with an A15 already. I'd rather have a PS Vita.

There is a major difference between a dual and a quad and I'm starting to get exasperated arguing about it. If you don't see it then fair enough to you. I can quantify it. It's not about "needing it" it's about how the systme uses it and how it affects the phone in the long rung. Better battery life and a more fluid Android. Also, Jelly Bean. The users running it in XDA are reporting major boners from it, lol.

Also, why not run a Linux distro off your phone? Once it matures, it's going to be quite handy for the same reasons Canonical are pushing it.

Oh and don't crowd me in with Android fanboys. Yeah, I prefer Android over iOS and WP, but I actually like WP and the devices running it. I don't like iOS and I don't like Apple. Call me an Apple hater because I'm happy with that.
Edited by Rubers - 9/15/12 at 5:20am
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Well, my wife and I are due for an upgrade, and I was really willing to give the iPhone 5 a chance, but when I saw it's lazy design I changed my mind. I was really hoping for a look more innovative and refreshing, something like a cross between the S3 and iPhone, but this stretched-out version is just ugly, boring, and lacks creativity imop. Now it's between the Nokia Lumia 920 and the S3.

Dangit Apple, i was really hoping for something cool! I can't take this phone seriously!
Edited by whitingnick - 9/15/12 at 5:54am
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