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Watch, Sandisk gonna comes in and say NOWAI! Samsung and Apple copied our design! is time to sue them both!
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I just found a new iPhone 5 ad that is relevant for this thread. smile.gif

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The new iPod nano doesn't look like that Samsung MP3 player. It's just the previous generation iPod nano with a taller screen, and a home button.
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Yeah.

Well maybe a 690 at 1080p but...

In mobile phones GPUs have a long way to go, the SGX430MP3 in the iPhone 5 being an example.
Yeah... the SGX543MP2 in the 4S is good but there's plenty of room for improvement.
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Looking at the kinds of games and at what def they are getting played I don't see much reson for a better gpu. Probably Infinity Blade 2 is the most demanding game on the market but the 4s doesn't seem all to stressed with it.
Without better graphics better games can't be made. It may not seem like it's stressed with it but it is -- I'd say it runs at about 30-35 FPS. Infinity Blade: Dungeons will be out soon and it's going to be fantastic.
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How can a cpu be too powerful?

Like you stated that no phone needs a quad core cpu.

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Stating that a smartphone doesn't need a quad-core isn't saying it doesn't need to be any more powerful. I'm arguing for better performance per core which is saying it needs more power. However on a smartphone, graphics are much more important for games than the processor.
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I just found a new iPhone 5 ad that is relevant for this thread. smile.gif

That's the fairest comparison I've ever seen wink.gif

Twice as powerful graphics... thinner... better camera... full sRGB coverage... just to name a few that matter.
Edited by steelbom - 9/16/12 at 4:41pm
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A dual running at 80% on both cores vs a quad running at 20% on all 4? Shouldn't that be a dual running at 40% on both cores, otherwise the dual is at 160% (Using Linux's method of 100% = 1 core is fully loaded) and the quad only at 80%, which would really be no wonder the quad was using less power.
I'd love to see if the 2 extra cores were actually fully disabled, how did you do it?

What I mean is each core at 80% each on the dual (which I saw during testing) while the quad was around 20-30% each core wink.gif

And yeah, I used Siyah kernel for the S3 (There's an S2 version also qhich came first I think smile.gif ) http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ Give it a shot. And they were indeed disbaled as I used Micro CPU Monitor to get an approximate usage (try setting it to 200px wide, much easier to see). The last two cores didn't light up at all. They were disabled at the kernel level.

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Also, try setting the monitors to red and green or something easier to see. I find the ICS blue is hard to see

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Not sure if the S2 version comes with STweaks which I used to change the settings, including USB charging rate (VERY HANDY) but if it doesn't (which it should) use EXTweaks from the play store. Again, though, it will 99% likely come with STweaks and this edit is useless.

I wonder if disabling at the kernel level is enough though, even though they clearly wouldn't get any instructions and the ARM power saving features would hopefully turn them off, you never know..Not like we could get a 100% fair comparison though.

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That's the fairest comparison I've ever seen wink.gif
Twice as powerful graphics... thinner... better camera... full sRGB coverage... just to name a few that matter.

Twice as powerful graphics on a 4" screen = who cares. The GS3 plays games just fine as well on a much larger display.

Thinner = So what? Is 8.6mm thick? I don't think so. Thinner also gives you a thinner, less powerful, unchangeable battery.

GS3 has a great camera and display as well, and again, I'd take a 4.8" screen over a tiny 4.0" screen, but hey, 2010 welcomes the iPhone to the 4" club. wink.gif

Isn't Apple copying Samsung for making a 4" screen phone? I do recall Steve Jobs frowning upon larger screens. rolleyes.gif
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I just found a new iPhone 5 ad that is relevant for this thread. smile.gif


An ad by a direct competitor? Not biased or one-sided at all I'm sure. I'm sure Apple isn't too worried about the S3. I'm interested to see how the iPhone 5 sales compare to the S3 after 30 days.
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Twice as powerful graphics on a 4" screen = who cares. The GS3 plays games just fine as well on a much larger display.
It's convenient that graphics don't matter now that the iPhone is the most powerful (in graphics) again. I'd rather have beautiful graphics on a 4 inch display than decent graphics at even 5.5 inches. It would also be quite beneficial when outputting a supported game to an HDTV.
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Thinner = So what? Is 8.6mm thick? I don't think so. Thinner also gives you a thinner, less powerful, unchangeable battery.
It's not. But it's still thinner. And lighter.
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GS3 has a great camera and display as well, and again, I'd take a 4.8" screen over a tiny 4.0" screen, but hey, 2010 welcomes the iPhone to the 4" club. wink.gif
It does. But it doesn't have a display with full sRGB coverage, and it only just caught up to the 4S in terms of camera quality so the 5 will likely top it again.
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Isn't Apple copying Samsung for making a 4" screen phone? I do recall Steve Jobs frowning upon larger screens. rolleyes.gif
Nope. It's natural progression.
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Hilarious. Android fan were drooling over the Mali-400 found in the Galaxy S3 International but when Apple comes out with better hardware plus a screen with full sRGB coverage, it's automatically crap. "Oh GPU performance doesn't matter anymore." "Oh GPUs found in Android are good enough." "Apple sucks blah blah blah."


I welcome hardware advancement whether it's Apple, Samsung, HTC etc.
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Nope. It's natural progression.

When Apple copies it's natural progression, when Samsung innovates it's considered copying and Apple sues.

Hypocritical Double Standards 101: Welcome to the world of Apple and their loyal fans.
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I just found a new iPhone 5 ad that is relevant for this thread. smile.gif

790 hours of standby time.. They wish. They're lucky if it would last two days on standby. The only way that battery would last 790 hours, is if they took it out of the phone for 790 hours.

11.4 hours of talk time.. lmao.
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