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11/16/12 at 6:01pm
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Not really underperforming, but it's just there's been a gradual shift of PCs wanting power from the 3.3V and 5V towards heavier use of the 12V rail. PSU manufacturers lagged behind this change. So a 500W unit in the past might have for example delivered 300W for the 3.3V and 5V and only 200W on the 12V. So if your GPU and CPU needed 400W together, you might have had to buy a 1000W unit. That's an extreme example mind you.
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11/16/12 at 11:22pm
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Glad you like! biggrin.gif Yeah if you check some of the early design updates I quickly came to the conclusion that there are some things small size is at odds with. Optical drive, ATX psu and 3.5" HDDs are all very space inefficient, and ultimately not needed so out they went. buttkick.gif
There are more and more examples of quality small / high-power builds out there but you're right that most require quite a bit of modding to watercool (and even air cool properly, for that matter).
Question for you, as I've had a couple ppl ask why I didn't use an ATX PSU. What benefit is there to having it? I'm running relatively high OCs on both the CPU & GPU, on the most advanced MITX mobo platform (1155 / z77). And I'm doing all of it on one of two 450W SFX PSUs available. So why would anyone need an ATX PSU for a MITX system? I'm not knocking the idea, as I know there are tens (if not hundreds) more options available for the larger form factor. But, as with the newer ITX boards that do a good job of packaging a lot of power in a small form factor, we seem like we're there with the PSUs as well, so why take up more space with a larger PSU?

Thanks for such a detailed response smile.gif

There really isn't any benifit of using an ATX PSU because as you have pointed out, 450W is plenty for one CPU and one GPU. The only reason it would be a good thing for me is because i am looking to move my current PC to ITX and if i could reuse one of my current PSU's i wouldn't have to buy a new one! thumb.gif The only other advantage to that design would be having a clear line of sight to your motherboard and watercooling hardware.

I guess i best learn how to use Sketchup or something similar so i can properly start tinkering with some designs myself biggrin.gif
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11/17/12 at 1:38am
If you monitor the GPU power, it's probably pulling 60+ Amps at 1.1 V, that would require beefy cabling, so the load is fed from a 12V supply at a reduced current, to allow "ordinary" sized cables to carry the power.

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11/20/12 at 11:31pm
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The only reason it would be a good thing for me is because i am looking to move my current PC to ITX and if i could reuse one of my current PSU's i wouldn't have to buy a new one! thumb.gif The only other advantage to that design would be having a clear line of sight to your motherboard and watercooling hardware.
I guess i best learn how to use Sketchup or something similar so i can properly start tinkering with some designs myself biggrin.gif

Ah, that's a really good point. I "downgraded" from a 650D as well so I completely understand where you're coming from.... I've got an AX850 with no case to put it in! The idea is interesting, but I probably won't pursue it anytime soon (no need for my purposes... I'm sure I can find another use for the AX).

Sketchup is free... if that's something you're interested in experimenting with it couldn't hurt to download it & give it a try! There are some very good, short how-to videos out there that make getting up to speed very easy, so if you wanted to play around with ideas all it takes is a bunch of time and some problem solving skills. headscratch.gif

BTW I checked and the case is juuuuuuust wide enough for an ATX psu (with 2-3mm to spare tongue.gif ), so it isn't impossible...
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11/21/12 at 6:22pm
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Well guys it’s been a while since I've added a real update... and with the holidays coming up, I'm afraid progress is gonna slow down some. Since this is a performance-oriented build I'm going to be spending a lot of time testing and tweaking to see if I can get it 5.0GHz stable... so most of the rest of the year will be spent on that, which doesn't make for great reading so I'll share highlights but that's about it. Here’s the game plan - as much for my benefit as yours tongue.gif ...

  • OC and load test 3770K #1 in Compact Splash & 3770K #2 in SUGO
  • Switch CPUs/mobos/RAM for an apples:apples comparison between my case & the SUGO to find out if all the custom work was worthwhile (hoping the answer is yes, haha)
  • If I can't get one of the 3770K's to 5ghz I'll either delid the best performing one OR swap in my 2700K, which should be up to the task
  • I’ll also fine-tune the RAM and graphics card OC's, and will be folding during downtime and to test various settings
  • During tear-downs & rebuilds I’ll get some better pics to show you how everything installs. It’s actually really easy as long as you have a plan going in (as with any proper SFF build)


Of course I’m open to suggestions for how to get the most out of it! thumb.gif



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Finally, in honor of Thanksgiving how ‘bout a little SFF pr0n? (don't google that)










Safe travels, wherever you might be headed over the next few days!
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11/21/12 at 10:27pm
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All these SFF builds, and the fact I only run a single GPU make me want to go m-atx or even m-itx when I upgrade CPU next. Then I will need to have Dwood make me some kinda awesome creation too biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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11/22/12 at 4:48am
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the fact I only run a single GPU make me want to go m-atx or even m-itx

THis. So many of us could get away with a itx system but we have full towers. lachen.gif
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11/23/12 at 12:57pm
Amazing case, really nice work thumb.gif
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